Hand from Jackpot 100 DC game

ditpoker

average stackabout 15000, blinds are 200/400 and i am on the button with about 18k. second to act who has a nice stack raises to 2,000 and is called by Joe O'Neill in mid position who has a monstor stack, player to my right goes all-in for 4,700 and i look down at AKoff. whats my move?

EDIT: more info. early position raiser has been at the table for a round of the button and hasnt played any hands,so i figure him for a tight player but such a large raise to me doesnt look THAT strong, maybe TT or JJ, or a strong ace. Joe in mid position can have any two cards and has been involved in nearly every pot we've played. Player to my right has been shortstacked for a while and only hand he played was a double up with AQ vs AT.

i folded, and early position and joe both called the 4700 and it was checked to the river. early position has AT and all in guy to my right had AJ. Joe had 65suited, i had said before he showed his hand he probably had 45 suited so i wasnt too far off. flop was xxT, turn was J, river was K so i'd have taken the lot. I figured it was all in or fold, i though at best i'm racing against an underpair and given that there were three players involved in the hand some of my outs (a's and k's had to be gone) so i mucked. would have had a very nice stack after.

Ste05

Well I suppose you'd need alot more info then provided, it's a push or fold situation, so you'd need to let us know what sort of ranges the players would currently be on, and what sort of hands will call your push.

califano

Too much of your outs held by others i reckon and the guy who pushed has a pair surely JJ or QQ so you fold this time i reckon.

Ste05

I can't help but read spoilers , so I've seen the results and TBH, I'd say it's pretty much a 50:50 between pushing and folding. If I thought Joe O'Neill would call with his monster stack and the EP raiser would fold then I'd be leaning towards pushing, because I'd say you're certainly way ahead of his range and in that case even the side pot alone would increase your stack, but with the tighty EP raiser it is a difficult decision.

Hitman Actual

If you push here, are you pushing to isolate the all-in, or pushing hoping to get a call? Without looking at the maths, I think pushing to isolate is better. There's a lot of dead money in the pot and you should be around the 50% mark to win, getting about 2/1 on your money. Plus, the initial raiser can't really call without a monster (even QQ might fold here given the action), and I doubt Joe O'Neill calls here either, crazy and all as he is!

jbravado

For me this depends on how strong you consider the initial raiser to be.
If I think hes any way weak I push.

ianmc38

I think it's a fold and not particularly close.

Hitman Actual

ianmc38 wrote:

I think it's a fold and not particularly close.

I disagree, I think it's a push. The only reason I dont think it's a push is if the initial raiser is so tight that he only raises in EP with AA/KK. And Joe O'Neill flat calls here with a lot of hands, and I doubt he calls a push.