OCUK - ripoff merchants!

Richard Dower

:mad: not only did they make false promises about Conroe (and blamed Intel) but they are also not CHEAP! :mad:

Example..the Gigabyte DQ6 mobo was listed at £164 Sterling when it first appeared in stock. Euro conversion was €276, but they didn't resolve the CC payment until a day later and in that time the Sterling conversion went up FOUR EURO! :mad:

So they take €276 and a day later it turned into €281, add to this FIVE days later they dropped they price of this mobo to $152 Sterling!!!!!! :mad: :mad:

Conroe fiasco :rolleyes: ....plenty has been said about that. They can blame Intel all the want, the REALITY is Gibbo posted and promoted stock availability on July 24th, took pre orders on that basis.

Took people's money, had it sitting in a bank earning interest and BOOM!..no chips, now it's likely they'll have stock when everyone else has....add to that they are charging a HUGE markup, some £30 over and above other Etailers like Komplett.co.uk

IMO they blatantly lied, wanted to get orders in and beat off their competitors by announcing pre orders and chips when in reality OCUK are no better or special then anyone else.

If you do bank transfers they have you pay THEIR bank fees, scandalous...customer support is very poor, they are rude and insulting on the phone, they give "politican" answers to questions, they even say stuff like "we can't comment".

Don't get me wrong, OCUK have good stuff and stuff no one else has, but they are not the cheapest, shipping to Ireland is hugely expensive, they have people on the forums bump things and use the forums to spin and PR their latest products and offers...and when something goes wrong they disappear off the forums and let the members fend for themselves.

You can't saying anything negative about OCUK on the forums or you get banned, competitior links are not allowed...

IMO they abuse the forums, lie about things just to make a buck.

K.O.Kiki

*FACELESS CORPORATION STRIKE!*

quad_red

get their preordered Conroe's?

Pogmothoin?

Ciaran500

Do you know if the chip shortage is actually Intels fault?

I thought putting through CC payments at the end of the day was a common thing? Either way they didn't get any extra money.

You can't blame them if prices dropped after you bought. Tough sh*t.

quad_red

"Dear Quad,

We do not know for sure but we have been given the impression that it
will be around the middle of the month.

Regards,

Scott Bentley
Customer Service
Overclockers UK
www.overclockers.co.uk"

Given teh impression that it might be in the middle of the month.

Strange. That's not the impression you were giving people who preordered.

PogMoThoin

Ya, I'm not impressed. Contacted them other day and got the reply that my order would proceed normally, whatever that means. gonna ring them later. :mad:

Its true: website now says Aug 2006. gonna get nasty on fone. false advertising IMO. Bastards

astrofool

tbh, unless stock is confirmed as being in, there is nothing they can do, fact is they "probably" will get the stock before most, but maybe only by a day or so.

Have to laugh at the "interest" being earned on orders waiting for stock, maybe 2p? If any, I doubt they get interest on their orders as most businesses are well into their overdraft at all times. Also, had the markets gone the other way, would you be giving them €4 back?

tHE vAGGABOND

I've used OC.co.uk for about 7 or 8 odd years, since I was first aware of them. I used them for loads of work orders over years when I was in the UK, and I've never had a single problem with them. I've ordered pre-built PC's and countless parts. All have always worked and I've never had a problem.

If you dont think they are cheap, then buy somewhere else ffs? There are a hundred websites that check the price of stuff against loads of different sites, and you pick the cheapest one if price is the be all and end all for you..

The main problem ordering from a UK based site is the postage is huge and the exchange rate kills you. Your better off ordering from an irish supplier over here tbh

Matt Simis

astrofool wrote:

tbh, unless stock is confirmed as being in, there is nothing they can do, fact is they "probably" will get the stock before most, but maybe only by a day or so.

Have to laugh at the "interest" being earned on orders waiting for stock, maybe 2p? If any, I doubt they get interest on their orders as most businesses are well into their overdraft at all times. Also, had the markets gone the other way, would you be giving them €4 back?

Have you been reading their forums? I was following this upto the release of Conroe. A lot of talk from OCUK about "just met with Intel", "largest share of Conroes in Europe will for OCUK", "we are their launch partner" etc etc.

Then of course, the sinker came in "place orders now to confirm early delivery" (they quoted various dates). From seeing them do this before it was quite clear they prolly would have some units (in this case they had the top end one first) but wouldnt be able to live up to the hype they generated while ensuring customer orders that would have been held off or placed elsewhere were locked into OCUK via their preorder.

Its clever if a little transparent.


Matt

astrofool

I've been following hardware launches like this for years, and as ever in retail, Caveat Emptor. It'll happen next time, probably for AMD 4x4 or K8L, or something like it. It seemed to be better when nVidia started doing hard launches rather than paper launches, but ATI (with their x1k series) and Intel (who always paper launch, and break promises, p3 1ghz, p3 1.13ghz, EE edition cpu's and on) didn't match nVidia.

PogMoThoin

Richard Dower

astrofool wrote:

tbh, unless stock is confirmed as being in, there is nothing they can do, fact is they "probably" will get the stock before most, but maybe only by a day or so.

Have to laugh at the "interest" being earned on orders waiting for stock, maybe 2p? If any, I doubt they get interest on their orders as most businesses are well into their overdraft at all times. Also, had the markets gone the other way, would you be giving them €4 back?

It's alot more then that, they have a shedload of pre orders...someone suggested it was half a million Sterling.

Richard Dower

Ciaran500 wrote:

Do you know if the chip shortage is actually Intels fault?

I thought putting through CC payments at the end of the day was a common thing? Either way they didn't get any extra money.

You can't blame them if prices dropped after you bought. Tough sh*t.

Yeah but five days?...if i was 2 or 3 weeks later then no moan, but five days....

astrofool

That's the price you pay for trying to get shiny things first (and also be first to post about it on tweaking/modding)

hopeful

Perhaps we should start a sub-forum for those suffering from C.A.D. (Conroe Anxiety Disorder.) Seems to be a fair bit of it about.


Personally I'm happy OC'ing the trousers off my X2 ATM

Cuddlesworth

Why are you whinging? Its been common knowledge for months that Conroe would be in short supply due to demand, and that Oem's would get the chips before etailers and shops.

Yes Oc'uk lied, and you are the fool for believing them. If you wish to show your disgust cancel your order and go for a another supplier like Komplett.

PogMoThoin

Just got this reply from ocuk after sending a nasty webnote:

Dear Sir,

The reason that out prices are higher is that we have paid over the
odds for the first few batches & faster delivery. We are expecting to be
the only stockists for at least a couple of weeks after release. These
are due to reach us in a little over a week.

Regards,

DirkVoodoo

Anyone who didnt think that their would be a shortage of conroe upon release is being a bit naive. Granted OCUK should not have preyed upon peoples desire for the chips, but from the amount of interest and hype surrounding this chip it was always going to be in short supply from the get go.

Evd-Burner

i placed an order in with komplett and rang them today and i was told by the guy on the phone that i might not get it till the end of august and he said that atm its impossible to get any stock of em due to the demmand, feck it like ya just have to make do with what ya have atm nothing else that can be done...

who actaully got what they ordered?

Wertz

Evd-Burner wrote:

who actaully got what they ordered?

Dell

TempestSabre

OcUK are business same as any other. Can't blame them for that. However their after sale support is very poor. That said a lot of online retails have poor support. Personally I don't like their attitude, they used to be better than the rest, now they are the same as the rest.

CrowdedHouse

Are they made in Ireland ? (just curious)

Richard Dower

Conroe?

Michael Collins

CrowdedHouse wrote:

Are they made in Ireland ? (just curious)

Conroe is indeed made in the Fab 24-2 plant in Leixlip

PogMoThoin

Michael Collins wrote:

Conroe is indeed made in the Fab 24-2 plant in Leixlip

:rolleyes: You work there?....I reckon you'd fit 5 in an empty cigarette box....hehe

TomCo

Michael Collins wrote:

Conroe is indeed made in the Fab 24-2 plant in Leixlip

I read the exact same thing, can't remember where. Probably on the intel site.

DemonOfTheFall

So is that scam still going where the bin men get all the Ex-Testing chips by sifting them out of the rubbish ?

A career in refuse collection sounds promising if you could get your wage plus a handful of X6800s to flog on here

BadCharlie

Well OC now have some of the new intel chips in stock.

PogMoThoin

Only E6300 + E6700

Richard Dower

Yeah..and most people ordered a E6600..and look at those prices??
They can whistle...personally i think OCUK *CAN* get E6600 OEM's...but won't.

Why?...to try see if fools go for the £150 more expensive E6700, i think Intel knows the 6600 is what people want and are holding back to make people buy the more expensive CPU's.

I'll wait, i have a cheap Celeron D 326 due in a couple of days, i'll use that until the 6600 drops and then sell the Celly.

stevenmu

Don't Intel ireland only make the actual silicon chip, and then that gets shipped off somewhere else to get packaged into the container (can't remember the proper name for it now) that we shove into our motherboards ?

TempestSabre

tHE vAGGABOND wrote:

I've used OC.co.uk for about 7 or 8 odd years, since I was first aware of them. I used them for loads of work orders over years when I was in the UK, and I've never had a single problem with them. I've ordered pre-built PC's and countless parts. All have always worked and I've never had a problem.....

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7561912#post7561912

leeroybrown

DemonOfTheFall wrote:

So is that scam still going where the bin men get all the Ex-Testing chips by sifting them out of the rubbish ?

stevenmu wrote:

Don't Intel ireland only make the actual silicon chip, and then that gets shipped off somewhere else to get packaged into the container (can't remember the proper name for it now) that we shove into our motherboards ?

As stevenmu correctly points out Intel Ireland buy raw silicon wafers (300mm for these desktop chips), process them and ship out finished wafers to the far east to be packaged into a finished CPU. It's only worthwhile doing the very expensive bits in Ireland.

TomCo

They mention manufacturing using the 65nm process in Lexlip.

zilog_jones

leeroybrown wrote:

As stevenmu correctly points out Intel Ireland buy raw silicon wafers (300mm for these desktop chips), process them and ship out finished wafers to the far east to be packaged into a finished CPU. It's only worthwhile doing the very expensive bits in Ireland.

Yeah, that's why if you look at the chips they always say they're made in some bogger country (even moreso than Ireland) like the Phillipines, Malaysia or China.