Which is the best newspaper?

junii

Times...Independant et cetera

unityofsaints

IMO International Herald Tribune is quite good for a daily newspaper, unbiased, international and with two full pages of comments. If you're into the domestic news I would say Irish Times, even though it's not spectacular. Amongst the weekly newspapers I would strongly reccommend Financial Times weekend (out on a saturday), just ignore the money/finance supplements (that's if you're not into them ofc) and the rest of the paper is a great read; again, if you're more into Irish news try the sunday times even though it seems like a big waste of paper with all those sections the average person will never read completely

Black Swan

The Economist, which is formatted like a magazine but sometimes refers to itself as a paper. (weekly)

Akrasia

For international news I prefer the U.K. independent. All of the Irish newspapers are fairly right wing in a lot of respects, I have specific personal experience of distortions in all the newspapers (ie, i know from direct experience that all the Irish papers have deliberately lied about issues that directly affected me) and so i can not trust the integrity of any Irish print media, not even the Irish Times

ronanp

I'd say the Times of the Irish papers, and the Guardian of the English ones.
The Sun, Daily Mail, and the Telegraph would, in that order, be the most sickening of rags in any civilized country.

englander

English Times.

Cheap at 90c and full of World news and comes in a handy tabloid size read for on the bus.

I know its probably 'slanted' but I can't see which way or to what.. if you know what I mean.

The only problem is that not all newsagents/paper shops choose to sell it in Ireland. Thankfully local supervalu has recently seen the light (maybe because of an increasing number of 'Da Brits' living here ?)

Zombrex

"Best" is a quite subjective term.

Most people will think the newspaper that best reflects their particular outlook in life is the "best", and the others that don't as being biased, too leftwing/rightwing etc.

Personally I like the Irish Times, and the UK Guardian. This is probably because I'm a liberal hippy pinko

But I also think it is a good idea to get your news for a variety of sources. My father buys a number of newspapers every day. People don't seem to do this anymore, they expect one news source will give them all the news. Which is funny because the internet makes is realitively easy to get news from a large number of sources.

The_Conductor

I agree with "best" being a very subjective term.

Myself- I get a lot of my news online rather than in printed form, but that said these would be my principle news sources:

The Register (for technology news)

BBC news online for mostly objective reporting

The Irish Times print version for Irish News

The Economist magazine for its articles and editorial content

Skynews online for breaking stories

New Scientist Magazine to keep uptodate with Scientific progress....

When abroad- normally its the Financial Times (their general news reporting is actually quite good).

oscarBravo

Moved from Politics. Mods: as always, deal with as you see fit.

Dg101

Irish Times all the way. Especially now that Kevin Myers has jumped ship. Though, avoid at all costs reading Charles Krauthammer. He'll just enrage you. That is, assuming that we're all in the same liberal hippy pinko boat.

monument

As has been said, ‘best’ is as subjective as you can get… so in my view, the Guardian is the best, the Irish Times is the best Irish daily, and the Sunday Business Post is the best Irish Sunday paper. As well as standing for the highest journalistic standards and healthy comment sections, my choices reflect my general viewpoint on things.

On another note, to repeat and agree with what I read somewhere recently – I like the Economist for it’s journalism, but don’t usually agree with the editorial column in the magazine. I however don’t read it too often and can do without subscribing at the moment. A subscription to the Phoenix magazine will probably have priority tbh.

LordSutch

In no particular order .............

The Times
The Guardian
The Irish Times
The Telegraph
The Mail
The Irish Mail
The Independent
The Irish Independent
The Examiner
The Sunday Times

Badabing

I find the observer a very good paper with brillant monthly magazines.

windowcleaner

i really think it comes down to going to different places for different things...

for news, i find online sources best

for irish analysis and features, Irish Times and Sunday Business Post

for sport, Irish Times and Guardian

for foreign news, The Times, New York Times and Observer

for general features, Guardian and Observer

for music and movies, The Ticket in The Irish Times or The Guardian

for the weather, i look out the window and look for clouds

Grem

The Irish Independent.

I got into a habit of reading it in work and I'd read it back to front every day at lunchtime.

indiehater

Irish Times, Irish Examiner and Sunday Business Post are the only ones worth reading. I wouldnt touch the Irish Independent or Sunday Independent with a sterilised bargepole. Also, Independent News&Media now owns the once-decent Sunday Tribune so avoid.

Ohyeah

This was already debated here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054935136&page=3&highlight=Favourite+Newspaper

but always interesting one

My Top Five

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In order of preference

1. The Guardian
2. The (London) Independent
3. Daily Ireland
4. The IT cause you have to really!
5. The Kerryman

I hate the Indo:mad:

Examiner Daily Ireland

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I think both the Irish Examiner and the Daily Ireland are the two most improved papers over the past seven or eight months. The examiner is really a national paper now and they do brill reports on health etc...politically they are more populists than the right wing Indo and the increasingly right wing Times.:mad:

Daily Ireland is only a year old or so but I think its improving all the time, it is defo republican and left wing, but at least it prvoides some choice in the market. Some of the front pages and interviews are excellent, and you find stuff there you just will not get anywhere else.

I know the Village is not a paper but it has improved so much recently as well, excellent in fact.:D

I really think Irish people should almost boycott the crap British tabloids!:eek:

santosubito

Ohyeah wrote:

Daily Ireland is only a year old or so but I think its improving all the time, it is defo republican and left wing, but at least it prvoides some choice in the market. Some of the front pages and interviews are excellent, and you find stuff there you just will not get anywhere else.

I know the Village is not a paper but it has improved so much recently as well, excellent in fact.:D

I really think Irish people should almost boycott the crap British tabloids!:eek:

Hmmm, One of the things you get in Daily Ireland and nowhere else is when they call the IRA `the army'. And when they do a 16 page supplement on the troubles and make reference to murder just once - Bloody Sunday. That, obviously, was murder, but they referred to the IRA murders as "killings" and "actions". What a great paper. Not.

flogen

santosubito wrote:

Hmmm, One of the things you get in Daily Ireland and nowhere else is when they call the IRA `the army'. And when they do a 16 page supplement on the troubles and make reference to murder just once - Bloody Sunday. That, obviously, was murder, but they referred to the IRA murders as "killings" and "actions". What a great paper. Not.

It has done a great job in making itself out to be acceptable though, considering the fact that stuff like An Phoblacht is read by SF members only, and even then its future is in serious doubt. I'm not sure what it has done, to be honest, to make itself look like more of a nationalists paper than a terrorist paper, but it's done something.

Ohyeah

"One of the things you get in Daily Ireland and nowhere else is when they call the IRA `the army'":eek:

Sorry man , you must not read the paper then. I do, pretty much evreyday for past 6 months, and I am not even republican (in the sense that I would not/never vote SF, but I suppose I would like a united Ireland etc etc) but if they refered to the IRA as the army I would not buy it!! :eek: 1It refers to it as the IRA as far as I know and I would think I would notice it if they refered to the 'Ra as "The army" ,

actually on its front page this week it had something about the "army" going to Lebanon and they were not talking about the IRA they were talking about the real army, the Irish defence forces.

I know its very republican paper but you get amazing articles by people like Chomsky in there, also Patricia McKenna (Green Party I think unless she has joined SF recently?) writes for it an I like her stuff. It can be a tad unprofessional looking sometimes and a bit northern orientated, but overall it is a decent source of non mainstream views and news, I think anyway.

Still I prob prefer the Examiner:p

santosubito

Ohyeah wrote:

"One of the things you get in Daily Ireland and nowhere else is when they call the IRA `the army'":eek:

Sorry man , you must not read the paper then. I do, pretty much evreyday for past 6 months, and I am not even republican (in the sense that I would not/never vote SF, but I suppose I would like a united Ireland etc etc) but if they refered to the IRA as the army I would not buy it!! :eek: 1It refers to it as the IRA as far as I know and I would think I would notice it if they refered to the 'Ra as "The army" ,

actually on its front page this week it had something about the "army" going to Lebanon and they were not talking about the IRA they were talking about the real army, the Irish defence forces.

I know its very republican paper but you get amazing articles by people like Chomsky in there, also Patricia McKenna (Green Party I think unless she has joined SF recently?) writes for it an I like her stuff. It can be a tad unprofessional looking sometimes and a bit northern orientated, but overall it is a decent source of non mainstream views and news, I think anyway.

Still I prob prefer the Examiner:p

Actually, I do read the paper.

Here's the quote:

Pg4 Daily Ireland, Thuresday, February, 3 2005:

Headline: Crisis deepens

Crosshead: IRA refuses to `acquiesce' to governments

THE crisis in the Irish peace process deepened last night after the IRA withdrew its offer to complete the decommissioning process.
In a strongly worded statement, the army said the scheme to put all its weapons completely and verifiably beyond use was no longer on the table. It said the British and Irish governments had reneged on their comm itments and obligations.

(I kept the paper from that day:D . I was so amazed they'd called the IRA an army. I can scan it and pm it to you if you want for verification, etc.)

Ohyeah

I put my hands up. Fair enough your right.

No need to scan it man I belive you

If I spot anything like that now I will prob write a letter or drop it an stick with the Examiner! :rolleyes:

Although this does not make it right, that seems to be from the very first month (or close enough to) that the paper came out!!!

Since i have been reading it (6 months give or take) I have read nothing like that really. But I can't argue with what you have there.
To tell you the truth I do not read it for the northern coveragae really, I do like its foreign and some of its southern coverage.

To be fair to it though I think its brings a form of camapaigning anti establishment journalism that is sort of lacking in other place, I know its not everyones cup of tea:eek: but I think its coverage of Iraqi war and the Leabanses one has been spot on, for example.

exiztone

I feel bad for the Evening Herald. It's not as tabloidy as people think. It has a diverse selection of articles, always up to date with Irish news and isn't opinionated trash when it comes to world news *cough*Indo*cough*

I also like The Irish Times, The Sunday Business Post, Ireland on Sunday.

I hate The Sunday Times... but, I read it anyway... you know... just to be bitter for a while.

crybaby

i find the irish times a better read in general but the independent does have some good general opinion stuff during the week, im lucky in that i get a free indo to read for the last hour or two of my shift and then i get the times on my way home

over the weekend i like the times/sunday times, the sunday tribune and the observer

billy the squid

The herald is too "Dublin" and they can't go a single day without sticking Glenda Gibson's ugly mug on one of their pages. Best papers for actual nationwide coverage would be the Irish Times or the Examiner.

Best local paper would have to be the new Clare People. Its compact size and professional looking presentation make it a better read.

Worst paper has to be the Daily Mail. worst local papers would have to be the Monday Tuesday and Wednesday issues of the Limerick Leader.