Internal doors mix & match ?

iplogger1

I was at a joinery looking at timber stairs options a few weeks back
and I happened to see some high quality solid oak doors (not
engineered/laminate). Expensive .. perhaps 500Euro per door before
frame/architrave/latches/hinges/ironmongery/staining.

I was curious and asked the sales guy about them and he told
me that some folks have purchased these for downstairs and
put engineered oak doors upstairs. The door frames would all
match (150Euro .. solid oak). I had a look at our plans and just
as a concept considered if I could get away with putting such
high end doors downstairs (4 doors in hallway). There is a door
from kitchen to another adjoining room (glazed door) and I was
thinking of perhaps putting an engineered door there to cut costs.

The one area of concern (apart from the budgetary aspect) I'd
have was the kitchen where the entrance door would be solid
oak and the door out to a further room would be engineered
(glazed in the top section though). I know mouldings would not
match but has anyone done or seen this concept. If I had 100%
of doors downstairs in solid oak I'd be making too big an impact
on the overall budget so I am trying to be creative and see
if I'd get away with cutting down on cost for one or two
doors away from the main reception areas downstairs.

Any ideas if this might work.. or might I have a wool & mutton
dressed as wool effect ?

~ipl

Soledad

I think it would work perfectly.
I have solid oak downstairs and solid doors, apinted white upstairs.
I wnated all white doors for bedrooms and would not contemplate painting solid oak white.
I have a mixture of half glass and all solid downstairs and it looks just fine.

iplogger1

Thanks Soledad.

Actually the little twist here is that I may have to resort to at
least one engineered oak door in one of the rooms which
enters into the sunroom (if I recall) on the ground floor.
That door would have the panels in its upper section glazed.
The issue would be that there would be a solid oak door
leading from hallway into that reception room and the
exiting door towards sunroom would be oak veneer. The
architraves would match. Also somewhere further down
corridoor (which is L-shaped) I might put in an engineered
door but I wanted all the main doors off the entrance
hallway to be top notch solid oak. Do you still think this
would work ? I know the mouldings on the solid doors
and engineered doors would be different but I reckon
noone would notice much unless it was pointed out to them.

I think we chatted on a thread before about stairs. What
timber did you use eventually for your stairs. Was it ash?

~ipl

Soledad

We used red oak and it loks lovely, thrilled with it.
I still think you could use a combination of solid and veneered. TBH it is in many cases hard to people to tell the difference.
No need to maintain unifomity to that extent in your home.
An eclectic mix of timbers and styles looks nice in my opinion.
In fact I love white architrave and skirting board with oak. This is what we did and it looks lovey to have th mix of white with the solid oak flooring, stairs and doors, too much of the one style and type is a bit dull.

iplogger1

Soledad - The white architrave/skirting and solid timber floors and unpainted timber doors does sound interesting. Unfortunately that is a hard sell
for me to make to my wife and I feel she probably is the voice of reason
in this because white painted features are sometimes seen as a no-no
when combined with small children and the fact that there is no
house-husband, housewife there all the time to ensure the high
maintenance aspect of clean white painted timber.

Out of interest what timber did you choose for your staircase?

~ipl

Soledad

If you ask her to look at interiors magazines she will see white is used a lto in combination with oak in many houses.
Agreed on the upkeep situation, but I am very houseproud so don't mind cleaning!

We used red oak on the stiars, it is beautiful and I adore it.

Soledad

If you ask her to look at interiors magazines she will see white is used a lot in combination with oak in many houses.
Agreed on the upkeep situation, but I am very houseproud so don't mind cleaning!

We used red oak on the stiars, it is beautiful and I adore it.

Avns1s

iplogger1 wrote:

I was at a joinery looking at timber stairs options a few weeks back
and I happened to see some high quality solid oak doors (not
engineered/laminate). Expensive .. perhaps 500Euro per door before
frame/architrave/latches/hinges/ironmongery/staining.

I was curious and asked the sales guy about them and he told
me that some folks have purchased these for downstairs and
put engineered oak doors upstairs. The door frames would all
match (150Euro .. solid oak). I had a look at our plans and just
as a concept considered if I could get away with putting such
high end doors downstairs (4 doors in hallway). There is a door
from kitchen to another adjoining room (glazed door) and I was
thinking of perhaps putting an engineered door there to cut costs.

The one area of concern (apart from the budgetary aspect) I'd
have was the kitchen where the entrance door would be solid
oak and the door out to a further room would be engineered
(glazed in the top section though). I know mouldings would not
match but has anyone done or seen this concept. If I had 100%
of doors downstairs in solid oak I'd be making too big an impact
on the overall budget so I am trying to be creative and see
if I'd get away with cutting down on cost for one or two
doors away from the main reception areas downstairs.

Any ideas if this might work.. or might I have a wool & mutton
dressed as wool effect ?

~ipl

I used Carroll Joinery Engineered "Solid" Oak doors. I say "solid" as I understand the doors were solid oak, just cut in strips and veneered so as to cut out the chance of warping.

I had a similar notion as yourself about the solid doors, but with 26 in total @ €500 I had a review of the plan. In fairness, there is NO way you could tell that these doors are not true solid oak doors and they cost something about the price you mention. Must be bought through a builders providers though.

Have a look at Carrolls website, and see what you think. If you want to ask anything else, come back to me.

PS, I don't work for Carrolls, nor am I on commission!! Just a satisified customer.

iplogger1

Avns1s wrote:

I used Carroll Joinery Engineered "Solid" Oak doors. I say "solid" as I understand the doors were solid oak, just cut in strips and veneered so as to cut out the chance of warping.
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Have a look at Carrolls website, and see what you think. If you want to ask anything else, come back to me.

Avns1is .. I know I've shown my wife the veneered doors before
and maybe it is the sealer or some other plasticizing effect
of the stain or whatever finish I've seen on them that my wife
does reckon the engineered doors don't have the authentic look.
Mind you I've seen those doors unfinished and they do look
more indistinguishable from solid oak in that unfinished state
so maybe it is the showrooms that put some sprayed stain/finish
on them which gives them a sort of hotel/functional look to
my eyes.. perhaps I'm seeing things!

She would be fine about those doors in less prominent areas of
the house. I've yet to show her the genuine solid oak doors I saw
at the joinery/providers but the mouldings and general timber
quality made them look fantastic. They would want to be for that
price.

When you say "cut in strips" for the engineered door... I think that
means something like 0.5mm of veneer over a softwood or mdf
core.

iplogger1

Soledad -

thanks again for info. I've sent you a PM query about stairs.

-ipl

Soledad

I agree with your wife re how the doors often look in showrooms, far too shiny and not real looking.
When you buy yhrm in their unfinished state you can varnish them to suit your own taste, make them less shiny and allow the wood to make a statement.