No phone socket in room

wb

I was going to post this in DIY, but some of you may have had this problem before, so hopefully can help.

First of all, I have a broadband connection (eircom).

I am moving the pc to a different room in the house. The problem is that this room does not have a telephone socket in the wall. Is it difficult to set one up youself? Where do I get the stuff to do it?

If not, is there anywhere that sells extra long cable to connect the pc to the socket in the other room?

Thank a million.

GBX

why dont you invest in a wireless set up?

wb

GBX wrote:

why dont you invest in a wireless set up?

This is a possibility, but I am worried that it will be less reliable. You see, I do a small bit of sports trading on a website, and need to be confident that the connection wont go down while buying/selling the trades. (this would leave me out of pocket) Is it any less reliable than plugging into a socket?

Thanks.

smashey

I set my pc up with a wireless connection. Never had a problem.

Ruu_Old

Nearly any DIY, electrical or computer shops will be able to supply you with the amount of cable you need to hook up your computer from the other room, without a shadow of a doubt.

wb

Ruu wrote:

Nearly any DIY, electrical or computer shops will be able to supply you with the amount of cable you need to hook up your computer from the other room, without a shadow of a doubt.

Even the cable that goes from the modem to the pc? I would need about 25 foot of it (the yellow cable)

Any idea what this is called?

Ruu_Old

wbailey wrote:

Even the cable that goes from the modem to the pc? I would need about 25 foot of it (the yellow cable)

Any idea what this is called?

Most places will sell you any length you need.
Like this? (RJ-45)

wb

Yeah, thats the one......

So this is widely available? This may be the handiest thing to do.

Ruu_Old

Oh yeah, I'm sure Peats or Maplin have it available (I have seen them sell up to 20m, you might have to ask them about that). You can probably get it with the RJ-45 connection on the each end or you might have to get a crimping tool for that (the shop assistants will be able to help you).

L31mr0d

wireless is as reliable as cable. Any situations that would cause your connection to go down with wireless would also do the same with cable. The only problem would be interference from other wireless devices, but i've found that my wireless tends to intefere with other devices (my wireless keyboard, gamepad). I think the wireless routers are made to not accept interference, so you should be safe.

sarahn11

hey wbailey , in the same situation here, i went into maplins and they sorteted me out with 2 20m cables...did the trick!!

zilog_jones

You can either get an extension for your phone line to the new room, or as others have said get a longer ethernet cable and leave the modem/router where it is. The phone extension will probably be a damn sight cheaper, and it's easier to get phone cable under carpets/skirting boards/whatever as it's thinner and usually flat.

tba

Although longer phone cables are subject to more problems than long RJ45 cables. I have never had a wireless disconnect either by the way, well once but that was because my flatmate unplugged the router to plug in his phone charger...

zilog_jones

I can't see 25 feet making much of a decrease in phone signal quality, but I could be wrong. I used to use a 10-15m extension lead for my modem and didn't have any noticeable broadband connection issues.

flogen

I have a long phone cable going from one room to another (not very long; back in my dial up days I used to have a huge phone line going from upstairs to the phone line in our downstairs sitting room!)
You may be better leaving the router/modem in the room with the phone line and either getting wireless or a long ethernet cable; just be sure that people aren't going to unplug them by accident or something like that

Eoin

zilog_jones wrote:

I can't see 25 feet making much of a decrease in phone signal quality, but I could be wrong. I used to use a 10-15m extension lead for my modem and didn't have any noticeable broadband connection issues.

I think the OP is leaving the modem where it is, and putting a long network cable in between it and the PC, rather than putting a long phone cable between the modem and the socket. Phone signal quality should therefore not be an issue.

I have no idea how long a network cable has to be before you experience problems, but I'd say it's an awful lot more than 25 feet. You can still buy a repeater if this should be an issue, but I very much doubt it will be. Edit: good quality Cat 5 seems to be good for over 300 feet!

My wireless router at home has crapped itself a few times, and I have had to reset it, but it's a fairly basic yoke, so that could be the problem. 99% of the time it works perfectly, and it is streaming a good bit of data quite often.

@wbailey, I presume you have thought of this already, but is there any way of getting a phone point put in the other room?

astrofool

Network cables can go up to 100metres if properly crimped/shielded, and more if using more advanced shielding. I've found wireless less reliable than a wired connection, and there can be more latency involved, but there really isn't a huge difference. As money IS involved, i'd recommend to stay wired.

The best thing to do is to wire in a new phone socket into the new room, which is very very easily done, and then bring the modem into the new room and connect it as usual, phone cable is also smaller + neater than network cable, easier to put under a carpet, or route under floor/through walls. Any DIY shop will sell the sockets + wire. Beyond that, have a phone handy to test you've got a dial tone before you screw anything in , it also lets you have an extra phone in the other room (don't forget to use a DSL filter on the phone to avoid pops and squeaks when talking on the phone).

shanethemofo

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zilog_jones

eoin_s wrote:

I think the OP is leaving the modem where it is, and putting a long network cable in between it and the PC, rather than putting a long phone cable between the modem and the socket. Phone signal quality should therefore not be an issue.

Yes I know, but I was saying he could instead put the modem by his PC and get an extension for the phone line, which would be cheaper and easier to to fit.

wb

Thanks everyone. All very helpful.

Well, it looks like I have a number of options, which I will look into over the next few days.

Thanks again for your time everyone.

Lump

Buying an extension to the phone line will be a lot cheaper, I had a 50 foot one, and never had problems.

John