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Can Longford beat the Aristocrats

  • 24-07-2006 9:12pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7


    I dont know how familiar people are with our performances over the past two months .... but I feel we have sufficient strength and depth to beat Kerry . They seem to be at a low ebb at the moment ..rumors of infighting with O Connor and Dara o Se ...gouch displaying that he is a mere mortal .....

    Our forwards are awesome this year and if we can get enough ball into thrm they will really hurt Kerry ...however our fullback line has showed weakness and this could be our downfall

    Its a great time to be a Longford supporter after many years of failure......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    It won't be easy, but I hope you do. You ran them close in your last championship meeting with them in 1968. Hopefully you can do a bit better this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    as a dublin fan that travelled down to longford for the 1st game of the season, i was very impressed with your teams performances. I have followed Longfords from a distance and they have impressed. it would be brilliant for Longford to progress to the 1/4 finals and remove Kerry out of the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


    Must say as a kerry fan i'm nervous about this match, but if kerry can regroup then i think they can beat them by 3 or 4 points. i'd say longford will put up a good fight though. That said if kerry don't settle....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    Longford have had some good results this year, but I really think this is a bridge too far for them. I think Kerry will win fairly confortably in this match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,760 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    Some very good performances by Longford this year. A real step up to make it to the last 12 in the country - and they've certainly been one of the best 12 teams in the country this summer.

    However, Derry are no Kerry.

    Would love to see Longford do it, but I can't see it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    i think they could if the game was in longford, fingers crossed anyways!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


    I know it's great to see underdog win and if i wasn't from kerry i would be shouting for longford too so i get why everyone hopes they win, but does everyone hate kerry that much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭DUB


    nothing against kerry at all, just an underdog thing, plus had a great trip over to longford earlier in the summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Longford Lad


    I must admit that our current form is something of a revelation !!...After a pretty lackluster Leauge we pulled best performance I ever seen from a Longfod jersey .....Had a simple error not let Vaughn in for his goal and David Barden had taken even 1 of his 3 goal chances we would have won .... This Dublin team beat Laois out of croke park and beat Offally comfortably .....

    Longford then beat Waterford well ...and hammered Tipperary scoring 1-23 ..... then came the real test for us ....a very strong Derry team and despite going behind on a number of occasions ...pulled the game out of the fire and won ....should have won by more ....only for a very very dubious penalty awarded to Derry . I wonder if it was Derry going to Killarney ..what would people think ?

    Now consider the Kerry form at the moment ....Kerry beat Waterford and Tipp pretty confortably ...which we did also ...in fact we hammered Tipp ....and both Cork games ...IMO they were very lucky to draw the first day ...Cork dominated all over the pitch and if it was not for Anthony Lynch getting the line ..it was over ... All the talk the week before the replay was that Kerry will re-group and beat Cork ....never materialised !!!..... Again pundits one and all are forseeing this Kerry team re-grouping in the run up to this game and putting together the football they are capable of !...... What if this doesnt happen again ..... I just wish the media would pay Longford the respect they deserve and not tag this game a David and Glioath meeting ....which it is not !!...especially from a certain ex-Kerry players and TV pundit who have written Longford off as a Div 2 standard team
    Rant over :D

    I have to say Im really looking forward to the trip ..... half day Friday ...in Killarney by 7 ...... :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


    don't think there are many in kerry who think the longford game is going to be easy but this is crunch time for kerry. To be knocked out of the championship in the qualifiers will be a huge embarrisment to kerry and with the home draw i think this is why kerry are favourites to win. I say fair play to longford and if it wasn't for them playing kerry i'd be shouting for them.

    P.S. Wat time is match on saturday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭cousin_borat


    It's a pity that the game is in Fitzgerald stadium. I would be much more hopeful if it was in a neutral venue or pearse. That being said, Go on Longford! (Leitrim man who went to school in Longford)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Longford Lad


    3.30pm throw in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    Waylander wrote:
    Longford have had some good results this year, but I really think this is a bridge too far for them. I think Kerry will win fairly confortably in this match.

    I tend to agree - if it was up in Pearse Park in Longford I would give them a good chance, but not below in Killarney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Yes, the Killarney factor is a big one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭phil


    As a Longford fan hoping for a win on Saturday, I'll throw my 2cents in here as well. Kerry are beatable by this current Longford team, I'm sure of it. If Kerry fire on all cylinders in Killarney on the weekend, we may go home early, but I can't for the life of me see this happening. I think we'll have a lack lustre Kerry performance and I'd actually nearly prefer to see Longford get out of the blocks a little late in the match. My pidgeon psychology tells me that if Longford take a nice lead early it'll fire Kerry into action. Make no mistake about it, it would be absolute humiliation for Kerry to be beaten by Longford, in front of their home support at this knockout stage of the Championship.

    If you remember, Kerry got beaten in Pearse Park not so long ago (yes in the league) by a last minute Stephen Lynch goal and believe me Kerry fans (and players I'd imagine) were absolutely disgusted. Longford kicked a huge amount of wides compared to Kerry that day, but definitely deserved the win on the performance they gave! I'm hoping for a repeat in Killarney!

    Regarding Longford not getting the credit they deserve... well, they don't deserve it! I agree Pat Spillane is a biased traditionalist who feels that Kerry should probably win every match based on their history in the competition and at times (all the time?) ignores their form completely. However, Kerry have earned the right to be huge favourites in the eyes of the media, pundits and neutral supporter. I don't expect the rest of the country to have been following Longfords games too much and on paper Longford would surely lose.

    As an objective onlooker you could only say that there is a slim chance that Longford will beat them, but as a supporter I'll be putting money they will beat them. Maybe it's the years without a push past the first round, the hammerings we've received from Dublin over the last few years and the sour, envious feeling you get when it gets to provincial semi-finals, finals and beyond without the blue and gold ever having represented in your living memory. Your friends are travelling to matches around the country in Croker, shouting for their team and it's disappointing to even go watch the inevitable in the first round clash against whatever other Leinster team we draw. But...

    the win over Derry was huge for the county and I think it's very possible the buzz around the place could help spur the lads on on Saturday. It's a pity it's in Killarney and I only hope the lads do themselves proud on the day. If they contest the match, it will leave plenty of hope for next year and almost certainly drum up the kind of interest in Longford county football that's potentially been there these many years!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 slu1exm


    As an unbiased Kerry fan :) I have to say I don't think so.

    As previous posters said the fact that it is in Killarney will be huge.

    Also word on the ground is there will be full-scale changes to the forwards.

    Just remember if Gooch played anything like his usual form Kerry would probably have beaten Cork. His club form has been patchy as well but he has had a couple of games where he has showed glimpses of his old form.

    While my head says otherwise I can imagine a scenario where if/when we get past Longford, we might just pull a fast one on Armagh in Croker if Gooch gets his game back, slip by them and trounce the Dubs in the Final to pick up another Sam (Not sure if it would be in the final we would meet Dublin)

    This was advertised as being on RTE before the time was changed. Anyone know if it's still on? [Just out of curiousity - will be up on the hill myself]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,832 ✭✭✭Waylander


    phil wrote:
    As a Longford fan hoping for a win on Saturday, I'll throw my 2cents in here as well. Kerry are beatable by this current Longford team, I'm sure of it. If Kerry fire on all cylinders in Killarney on the weekend, we may go home early, but I can't for the life of me see this happening. I think we'll have a lack lustre Kerry performance and I'd actually nearly prefer to see Longford get out of the blocks a little late in the match. My pidgeon psychology tells me that if Longford take a nice lead early it'll fire Kerry into action. Make no mistake about it, it would be absolute humiliation for Kerry to be beaten by Longford, in front of their home support at this knockout stage of the Championship.

    If you remember, Kerry got beaten in Pearse Park not so long ago (yes in the league) by a last minute Stephen Lynch goal and believe me Kerry fans (and players I'd imagine) were absolutely disgusted. Longford kicked a huge amount of wides compared to Kerry that day, but definitely deserved the win on the performance they gave! I'm hoping for a repeat in Killarney!

    Regarding Longford not getting the credit they deserve... well, they don't deserve it! I agree Pat Spillane is a biased traditionalist who feels that Kerry should probably win every match based on their history in the competition and at times (all the time?) ignores their form completely. However, Kerry have earned the right to be huge favourites in the eyes of the media, pundits and neutral supporter. I don't expect the rest of the country to have been following Longfords games too much and on paper Longford would surely lose.

    As an objective onlooker you could only say that there is a slim chance that Longford will beat them, but as a supporter I'll be putting money they will beat them. Maybe it's the years without a push past the first round, the hammerings we've received from Dublin over the last few years and the sour, envious feeling you get when it gets to provincial semi-finals, finals and beyond without the blue and gold ever having represented in your living memory. Your friends are travelling to matches around the country in Croker, shouting for their team and it's disappointing to even go watch the inevitable in the first round clash against whatever other Leinster team we draw. But...

    the win over Derry was huge for the county and I think it's very possible the buzz around the place could help spur the lads on on Saturday. It's a pity it's in Killarney and I only hope the lads do themselves proud on the day. If they contest the match, it will leave plenty of hope for next year and almost certainly drum up the kind of interest in Longford county football that's potentially been there these many years!

    Great post phil, i hope Longford do go on to reap benefits from beating Derry, I just dont think it will be in an away match to Kerry. It should be pointed out that a couple of years ago Longford gave Dublin a bit of a scare also, I was surprised we beat them so well last year at the time. That kind of result against Derry is what the qualifiers are all about, and those kind of results helped West Meath achieve their goal of a first ever Leinster title, as they got to play more games in the previous few years then they ordinarily would have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭elurhs


    I'm a neutral and I think Longford have a better chance than the media are making out. It's a little similar to the Tyrone situation - a few poor performances in a row, people kept saying they had to improve, but they didn't. I know Tyrone had injuries, but Kerry haven't played well in any game in the Championship this year either. One off day maybe, but two poor performances in a row? I don't think they can just flick a switch and pull out a performance. It will be tough, and I think Longford's biggest enemy could be themselves. If they have a five point lead after twenty minutes they could get afraid and stop playing. Hopefully that won't happen and Longford can cause an upset they fully desrve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Dapos


    Well for the last few years kerry have played poorly in the munster championship. No offence to tipp and waterford football but they really don't put kerry to test. In the last number of years kerry have had close calls against limerick and cork. And while gooch seemed to be that extra touch in giving kerry the edge in the munster finals. A team doesn't get to the all-ireland final 2 years in a row because of one player. So i believe (more like hope) that Kerry will finally pull off a good performance against longford, and this will give them momentum, along with the longing to beat the top northern team, to tip armagh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Kerrynoel


    The general mood in Kerry after the Munster final was if we have to travel up to Longford then we could be in trouble. Fortunately the draw (or fix as some might think) has been kind to us. We still think Longford will make a great match out of it. But as of this morning when the Kerry team has been announced, im feeling optimistic. Finally a tall ball winning full forward (Keiran donaghy), Mike frank back, Eoin brosnan in his proper place. Changes that should have been made a long time ago. The Gooch is captain which will give him new confidance and focus.
    U must remember that all year the Kerry backs have been playing well. So if we could just click.
    If we dont then best of luck to Longford:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    There was a very good article in today's Independent about their 1968 All-Ireland Semi-Final with Kerry, which Kerry won 2 - 13 to 2 - 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    Can Longford beat the Aristocrats?.......

    In a word,yes.

    I think Longford can beat Kerry but the fact that Kerry have home advantage may prove the difference.Great performances against Dublin and Derry will be the highlight of Longfords campaign up until this point.Kerry will be scratching their heads wondering how Longfords full forward line are getting the best of the Kerry defence.I don't think Colm Cooper will be on shooting form again down in Killarney but Eoin Brosnan and O Se will make up for this.

    This game will be tight but I predict Kerry to win by a single point leaving the Kingdom fans mad and very concerned about their next meeting with Armagh.

    P.S Nice post Phil.I'm interested in Longfords progress in the championship.I have followed their run since the Dublin game and Longford fans should rejoice that Longford have a very good chance of making the quarters.For any team to make the last 12 is an achievement.In a sense we can say Longford are contesting Sam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 995 ✭✭✭cousin_borat


    ok, all Irish news sites blocked. the game will be posted on an aussie rules sites. all thats left to say is GO ON LONGFORD!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,416 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Longford have been quite impressive this summer, don't think they can do the business in Killarney but hopefully they can give them a scare, although having said that don't be surprised if there are more away fans than locals, Kerry fans are notorious stay-away fans until All-Ireland final day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭phil


    I'm sure everyone will be saying "if it wasn't for the goals", but well, fair play. I think Armagh may prove much tougher opposition in the next round though!

    Phil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    phil wrote:
    I'm sure everyone will be saying "if it wasn't for the goals", but well, fair play.

    It was theie downfall, obviously. Although if they had taken their goal chance in the first half, along with some of those bad wides then the concession of the goals wouldn't have mattered as much as they did.
    phil wrote:
    I think Armagh may prove much tougher opposition in the next round though!

    I think that if Kerry play like they did today the next day against Armagh they will get well beaten. Armagh to win the next day, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    Longford did themselves proud. A bit of inexperience and a few soft goals cost them. Kerry are no great shakes though.


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