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Sezer arrested for rape

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    lol - he so CRAZY!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    Didn't like the guy but I can't seeing being so stupid as to rape someone.

    Might just be some lunatic,who hated him that little bit more than most,trying to ruin him.

    Could be wrong though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Strokesfan


    Yea, I don't think that's true and I hated him... weird


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Scary in that it's the second alleged incident. He was cleared of rape charges two years ago also http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003230001-2006240159,00.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    it's a hard one to call, but two allegations and his behaviour in the house point to sleazy behaviour on his part.
    then again, it could just be the usual desperate for attention women making these allegations.

    whether he is guilty or not is for the cops and a judge to decide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    He looks like a rapist tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    julep wrote:
    it's a hard one to call, but two allegations and his behaviour in the house point to sleazy behaviour on his part.
    then again, it could just be the usual desperate for attention women making these allegations.

    whether he is guilty or not is for the cops and a judge to decide.
    It's not for the cops or a judge to decide either. It's up to a jury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Maybe they can stick him in the house again and everyone can vote on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,286 ✭✭✭SprostonGreen


    Could just be a girl trying to blackmail him or ruin his reputation, happens to footballers a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    weemcd wrote:
    He looks like a rapist tbh.

    Yeah was thinking that myself. Perchance was he sweating when the police found him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    It's not for the cops or a judge to decide either. It's up to a jury.

    Its up to the cops to decide to charge him or not and then the jury and judge will decide his fate.

    I think we all know what he meant anyway, dont think there was a need to pick holes in that persons point, try using your common sense in future....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭iFight


    OMG, didnt like the chap, but I wouldnt have thought hed turn out a rapist or anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭rsta


    roland rat...



    euww..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Huggles


    Can't say I am surprised. Always seemed like a really pushy bastard. So inlove with himself can't imagine he'd understand the word NO! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    it said the incident happened in a hotel room. thats a classic tell tale sign that its bull****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    How is that a classic tell-tale sign that it's bullshít? What so because a girl ends up in a guy's hotel she's obviously going to have sex with him? That is the bullshít. Not allowed to change your mind?

    Rape is one of the most difficult crimes to prove and it's attitudes like that that make it even harder. Yeah so in the past people have cried rape when nothing happened in the hopes of getting money or whatever. However that doesn't mean all accusations of rape, particularly against "celebrities" (and I use the term very loosely in this case) shouldn't be taken very seriously.

    Nobody knows what happened so instead of claiming it's bullshít why not wait and see how things transpire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    How is that a classic tell-tale sign that it's bullshít? What so because a girl ends up in a guy's hotel she's obviously going to have sex with him? That is the bullshít. Not allowed to change your mind?

    I think the person was wrong to say that it is bull**** because its a clasic tell-tale sign, only two people know what really happened and its only our imagination and the media making us think all sorts of things.

    I do think though that if the girl went back to the hotel room, sex was the reason, whether or not she got raped, she took a risk by doing so anyway.
    It obviously shouldnt of happened but its a hard lesson for her to learn, i think most people know they take a risk by acting this way, bottom line is
    dont go back to hotel rooms with strangers

    If he is guilty i hope they make an example of him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 398 ✭✭Hydroquinone


    I can't get over the notion that anyone can "look like a rapist."
    What does a rapist look like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    I do think though that if the girl went back to the hotel room, sex was the reason, whether or not she got raped, she took a risk by doing so anyway.
    It obviously shouldnt of happened but its a hard lesson for her to learn, i think most people know they take a risk by acting this way, bottom line is
    dont go back to hotel rooms with strangers

    If he is guilty i hope they make an example of him


    Equally she could have been going back for a party or a few drinks. The way I look at it as soon as a girl says "no" you stop. Regardless of whether you had been kissing/touching beforehand.

    It's stupid to even discuss this because its all pure speculation. It's ridiculous to say yea he did it, sure he looks like a rapist..and equally ridiculous to say he didn't do it and that girl is lying to get money/ruin his reputation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Could just be a girl trying to blackmail him or ruin his reputation, happens to footballers a lot.
    the thing about that is, the first allegation was made years ago. the girl in question went to the papers when he was still in the house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Equally she could have been going back for a party or a few drinks. The way I look at it as soon as a girl says "no" you stop. Regardless of whether you had been kissing/touching beforehand.

    It's stupid to even discuss this because its all pure speculation. It's ridiculous to say yea he did it, sure he looks like a rapist..and equally ridiculous to say he didn't do it and that girl is lying to get money/ruin his reputation.

    I totally agree, no matter how drunk or aroused you are, no means no, and thats that, no excuses.

    I agree that we could speculate all day long and it would be pointless, i personally dont have an opinion on whether he did it or not because who am i to make that judgement.

    I just think that its unfortunate that sometimes girls find themselves in those situations where they are left defenseless against potential attackers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    How is that a classic tell-tale sign that it's bullshít? What so because a girl ends up in a guy's hotel she's obviously going to have sex with him?

    Was I the only one who thought while reading that.... well... yeah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    weemcd wrote:
    Was I the only one who thought while reading that.... well... yeah?
    Well now you never know, she could have come to hotel room just for an innocent cup of that disgusting hotel-room instant coffee, or with the intention of playing a platonic game of chess ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Oh for god's sake.

    It is possible to go back somewhere without the intention of having sex. Like I said, a girl could be asked back to a hotel by a guy for a late drink. Just because he may have the intention of getting his hole doesn't mean she does. A lot of girls will be tempted back by the old "Ah come on it's just a drink. I won't try anything I swear. Just come back for a drink."

    And what if she did want to have sex but she changed her mind when it came down to it? Should he still go ahead anyway? I mean she got herself into the situation in the first place. She knew she'd have to have sex with him. :rolleyes:

    This whole thread is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    If it was back to his gaff for drinks or coffee, then that is more understandable. Hotel room means something different, its naive to think otherwise...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    I can't get over the notion that anyone can "look like a rapist."
    What does a rapist look like?

    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=spot_the_pedo

    Similar to that, general pervert behavior. Do the test, you'll be surprised how many you get right


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    weemcd wrote:
    If it was back to his gaff for drinks or coffee, then that is more understandable. Hotel room means something different, its naive to think otherwise...
    Maybe so but that doesn't justify raping someone just because you think they should have known they had it coming!

    Even if the girl had agreed to sleep in the same bed as him,no means no.

    When it comes to ramming your cock into another person,you never take it for granted that they're going to think it's ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭dahooligan


    LadyJ wrote:

    When it comes to ramming your cock into another person,you never take it for granted that they're going to think it's ok.


    Brilliant! I am thinking of adding that to my signature!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    LadyJ wrote:
    Maybe so but that doesn't justify raping someone just because you think they should have known they had it coming!

    Even if the girl had agreed to sleep in the same bed as him,no means no.

    When it comes to ramming your cock into another person,you never take it for granted that they're going to think it's ok.

    It's her word against his though tbh. Who really knows the truth? Wouldn't be the first time a man has raped a woman, or equally the first time a woman has cried rape.

    I'm not defending Sezer for godsake, I think he looks like a rapist. I'm just saying that if she went up to his hotel room, I wouldn't be that sure of her story. Have to say the thought of an accusation like this that turns out to be false terrifies me and I'm sure every other male.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭LadyJ


    weemcd wrote:
    It's her word against his though tbh. Who really knows the truth? Wouldn't be the first time a man has raped a woman, or equally the first time a woman has cried rape.

    I'm not defending Sezer for godsake, I think he looks like a rapist. I'm just saying that if she went up to his hotel room, I wouldn't be that sure of her story. Have to say the thought of an accusation like this that turns out to be false terrifies me and I'm sure every other male.
    Oh I'm not attacking Sezer at all. I have no idea what happened. I'm just making a general point.

    All I'm saying is that this attitude of "well she went to his hotel room so she should have known really" is ridiculous.

    My point was merely that it doesn't matter if a person walks around naked in your hotel room,you still have to keep your hands off them if they've siad no to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Is it alright to have a **** while they are walking around or is that a no-no too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    weemcd wrote:
    Have to say the thought of an accusation like this that turns out to be false terrifies me and I'm sure every other male.


    Have to say the attitude of she was in his hotel room so she obviously knew it was gonna happen. She brought it on herself, terrifies me and I'm sure every other female.

    One of the hardest crimes to prove, one of the most emotionally damaging crimes and still often not taken seriously because people in the past have cried rape. Sickens me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭alastair_doom


    “The plan was to eat at a restaurant but — as he was late — he suggested having dinner at his hotel.”

    ^ from the first rape. sounds like a line to get her into his hotel room... And yes, i definately believe the first woman.
    in the house he showed no respect for women afair.
    not too sure about the second woman, but you'd think someone accused of rape would be more careful. If she keeps he identity secret, and doesnt make money from the press... you'd have to assume she was telling the truth.

    Imogen aint gonna be a happy bunny when she gets out.

    P.S. Rot in hell Sezer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Carcharodon



    This whole thread is ridiculous.

    If its so rediculous stop posting the same point over and over agian.

    I think some people on this thread are very confused, they seem to think people are saying the girl deserved to get raped.(Even though no one knows what happened)

    No one is saying that, i think everyone is against rape to be honest.

    The point they are making is that when someone goes back to a hotel room there is only usually one thing in mind.

    And i know this does not mean that they cant so no and change their mind, its obviously wrong to get violated like that.
    Some people are just expressing their opinion that they believe that she went back for sex thats all. Not that she deserved anything else.

    the whole topic of rape should be discussed somewhere else, humanities or what not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    If its so rediculous stop posting the same point over and over agian.

    It's called debate. Generally people make points in a debate. Forgive me for having a personal opinion on this one and being quite frankly sickened by some of the attitudes here. :rolleyes:
    I think some people on this thread are very confused, they seem to think people are saying the girl deserved to get raped.(Even though no one knows what happened)

    No one is saying that, i think everyone is against rape to be honest.

    The point they are making is that when someone goes back to a hotel room there is only usually one thing in mind.

    And i know this does not mean that they cant so no and change their mind, its obviously wrong to get violated like that.

    I never said that people are saying she deserved it. Some people have alluded to the fact that she's lying because she went back to a hotel room so it obviously wasn't rape.
    the whole topic of rape should be discussed somewhere else, humanities or what not

    I wholeheartedly agree.


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