Is this an obvious fold?

Sangre

10/20c limit. I have AA. I raise to $1 MP after 2 limpers. The button calls and the 2 limpers fold.

Flop comes J 10 3 all clubs (I don't have Ac)

I lead out and bet 1.50 into about 2.70 (should I have checked). The buttom min raises to 3. I think about it and call (suspect this is poor) waiting to see if he'll fire another on the turn (sill because I'm OOP, right?). Turn comes another 3 and I check. He leads 2 into about 8. I debated whether this was very weak or very strong or just oblvious. I eventually folded.

Comments?

Never know how to play over pairs to a one suit flop.

Atlas_IRL

seems like they have a made flush a/k high and are giving you the odds to hit a worse one, i'd fold it...

although the play ive seen from that level are dubious

Mr. Flibble

Personally I'd call because the bet was so small. Looks a little like he's trying to build a pot with Ac (obviously bad play HU). Unless he flopped the A high flush and therefore isn't afraid of being outdrawn I think you are ahead with such a weak bet. I might push if there's not much left behind.

luckylucky

I'm siding with mr.flibble on this one- it's a call for me, I mean the flop is nasty for you, but remember too the button knows that a preflop raiser is hardly likely to like that type of hand... he could easily be testing you or be trying to build a pot with Ac or Kc, or he could have a pair and not want to risk betting too much.

I think a fold here is way too tight especially considering pot odds and to be honest if I had to guess who was ahead I'd say you were... my best guess for the villain is something like AcJ or even AcT.


Remember as well - the villain may even think a hand like AcJ or AcT is ahead of yours.
Just because those aces are no longer making you smile - does not mean especially HU that they are no longer good.

I mean don't get me wrong he could very well have those clubs that you fear but taking out the way he has played the hand which does give some credence that he might actually have em - the odds of him having 2 clubs are over 20 to 1. All things being equal it looks more likely that his hand is something other than 2 clubs. If you had more than one caller preflop and the action on the flop was getting a bit frisky then I'd be more worried.

Of course you are going to be left with a tricky decision on river but so be it...

Gholimoli

Raise a bit more pre flop .
Your bet on the flop is fine.
Your call of the min raise is also fine.
The 3 on the turn was a very good card for you because if villain had something like JT is his two pair is no longer good for him.
You were correct to check though .
You should call his bet though.the reason why you should call is not because you don’t think his got the flush or its not possible or likely for him to have the flush (it is very possible for him to have it and not that unlikely).the reason is because there are also a lot of hands that villain may think is good but you beat ie KK,QQ,AcK,AcQ,AJ,JT etc.
Call the turn bet and check/call the river if no club.

luckylucky

One other point to note which I didn't take into account, you have got 2 pair on the turn so even if he does have a flush you have odds of about 10 to 1 to hit a house, if he actually does have a flush and you hit your house you could be seeing his entire stack going your way! - makes the call an even more correct decision imho.

Sangre

Gholimoli wrote:

Raise a bit more pre flop .
Your bet on the flop is fine.
Your call of the min raise is also fine.
The 3 on the turn was a very good card for you because if villain had something like JT is his two pair is no longer good for him.
You were correct to check though .
You should call his bet though.the reason why you should call is not because you don’t think his got the flush or its not possible or likely for him to have the flush (it is very possible for him to have it and not that unlikely).the reason is because there are also a lot of hands that villain may think is good but you beat ie KK,QQ,AcK,AcQ,AJ,JT etc.
Call the turn bet and check/call the river if no club.

Never thought about the 2 pair, j10s could have well been in his range. Tbh I play a very tight game at these levels.

Never know what a min raise means. Seems to be the only raise I encounter at these tables except an all in!

Thanks for the advices lads, think I'll start posting hands up more often!