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House of the Nolans

  • 18-07-2006 10:46am
    #1
    Tech Overhaul
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    How do you say House of the Nolans in Irish. Thanks


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  • #2
    Tech Overhaul
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    Would Teach Ó Nualláin be near enough?


  • #3
    GaryOR
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    Wizard Archer wrote:
    Would Teach Ó Nualláin be near enough?


    I'd say Teach Uí Nualláin

    the Uí is to indicate possession


  • #4
    Gael
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    GaryOR wrote:
    I'd say Teach Uí Nualláin

    the Uí is to indicate possession

    The man speaks the truth.


  • #5
    Tech Overhaul
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    Mile Buiochas


  • #6
    pog it
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    Sin an-suimiuil!

    I never thought about the difference between 'Ui' and 'O' in the context of surnames generally.
    What if I was to marry a guy- would I take on the 'ui' in this case?!


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  • #7
    Gael
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    pog it wrote:
    Sin an-suimiuil!

    I never thought about the difference between 'Ui' and 'O' in the context of surnames generally.
    What if I was to marry a guy- would I take on the 'ui' in this case?!

    Yup. Though there was a strong tradition in Irish-speaking society of women keeping their maiden names even after marrying. Eibhlín Dubh Ní Chonaill and Peig Sayers would be two famous examples. But if you were to adopt your future husband's name, you would take on the "Uí" prefix alright.


  • #8
    pog it
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    Gael, many thanks for the info again, most enlightening as always :)

    I'm also wondering is the 'O' used in the context of a male only in relation to surnames, and 'Ni' for a female? Why are some surnames 'Mac an' or 'Nic an'? Is this just a variation?
    I was thinking 'Mac an' and 'Nic an' would be more modern than O and Ni? Sin ceart?


  • #9
    Gael
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    pog it wrote:
    Gael, many thanks for the info again, most enlightening as always :)

    I'm also wondering is the 'O' used in the context of a male only in relation to surnames, and 'Ni' for a female? Why are some surnames 'Mac an' or 'Nic an'? Is this just a variation?
    I was thinking 'Mac an' and 'Nic an' would be more modern than O and Ni? Sin ceart?

    'Mac' and 'Ó' have different meanings. 'Ó' means 'grandson of'
    and 'Mac' means 'son of'. So it's hasn't anything to do with modernity. 'Nic'
    just happens to be the 'Mac' version of 'Ní'.

    Also, 'Nic' doesn't take a séimhiú, whereas 'Ní' does:

    Ó Murchú/Ní Mhurchú

    BUT

    Mac Cormaic/Nic Cormaic


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