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Betting and Dan Harringtons Book

  • 18-07-2006 9:35am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭


    I was wondering does anyone know any links to sites where there is any useful betting strategies Pre-Flop, Flop, Turn and River Betting.

    Or does anyone know any typical/Normal betting strategies? I know of one where I would preflop bet 3x Big Blind for a good hand 2x Big Blind for Marginal Hand. etc

    And, in Dan Harringtons Poker Volumes I and II Strategy and Endgame, does he explain Pot Odds/Implied Odds etc and betting strategies? Also, would they improve your poker game?


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,666 Mod ✭✭✭✭TrueDub


    Having only one betting strategy that you use all the time will make your play very predictable, costing you money in the long run.

    Harrington's books are excellent, and cover pot & implied odds very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Or does anyone know any typical/Normal betting strategies? I know of one where I would preflop bet 3x Big Blind for a good hand 2x Big Blind for Marginal Hand. etc

    And, in Dan Harringtons Poker Volumes I and II Strategy and Endgame, does he explain Pot Odds/Implied Odds etc and betting strategies? Also, would they improve your poker game?

    The strategy in your first paragraph will be pounced upon very quickly by good players.

    Harringtons books are a very worthwhile investment, for <€50 for the two of them they will pay for themselves very quickly. *

    AJs.

    * Though you may have a slight initial downturn whilst you try to adjust your game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 theslick


    There are too many variables for a fixed strategy. Think of what you want your bet to do - thin the field, build the pot, take the pot etc? What odds will you give? How many have already acted, how many to act? Loose/tight/weak players? How has table already reacted to raises? How do you think table preceive you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    The strategy in your first paragraph will be pounced upon very quickly by good players.

    Harringtons books are a very worthwhile investment, for <€50 for the two of them they will pay for themselves very quickly. *

    AJs.

    * Though you may have a slight initial downturn whilst you try to adjust your game.

    Armani speaketh da truth - if you always bet the same way it'll be noticed suppose you raise 3xBB when you have a pair kings - any reasonably savvy player who has played a number of hands with you now knows you have a good hand, now you have given them 2 options they can get away from their hand and fold which you don't want since you have a nice hand, if they have aces they can re-raise you knowing you have a good hand and will find it nigh on impossible to fold but also knowing they have you in trouble, if they have a worse hand like 99 they may call you especially if they already have money in the pot and wait to see what happens on the flop, if the flop hits them they might take you for a decent amount of money. The other side is that if you minimum raise with a moderate hand something like KQ, KJ, 66 then they can start to put you on these type of hands and more often than not you'll either win a small pot or lose a big one with em...

    I personally hardly ever raise for less than 3xbb - notice da hardly ever - there's always an exception... (in fact once when I raised in late position once 2xbb by accident instead of my more usual pot size raise with AJ and the flop came down with JJ2 I busted a guy with KJ who check raised me on flop - as given the way i normally raise there was no way he would have put me on AJ - I was cursing at my mistake before the flop as I wanted to thin the field but in this case doing something different than my norm even though by accident worked out for me :D ). Anyway in general the amount you raise should be the same whether you have aces or if you are adding deception by raising with 76s, of course you should vary the amount you raise but your opponents and your position should be the main deciding factors and not your cards.

    One strategy I like from Phil Gordon's Little Green book on no limit texas hold em is to raise for smaller amounts in early position maybe averaging about 3xbb, in this way you don't invest too much out of position and when you have your nice hand like kings and aces there is a higher chance that you will get called from somewhere. In late position where you will be trying to take down the blinds often with very moderate hands raise averaging about 4xbb(do this with your good hands too!) - this way you get trifled with less often and when you do you still have position on the blinds on the flop.

    Also one thing to remember about harringtons great books are that they are for tournament play, a lot of the concepts apply to cash games but some don't.

    If you are looking for poker tips they are plenty of good sites out there
    My own site www.firbolg.com of course :D
    www.playwinningpoker.com

    www.poker.net

    www.pokertips.org

    You can learn a lot from these forums also, I just joined here about a month ago and I have taken a break from poker and looking to improve myself as a player during this sabbatical, meanwhile been real busy on this forum and it is helping me out a lot and I hope I may have helped some others too, there are many guys on here who know their stuff - books and websites can provide useful info but forums I think are the frontline... it's important to know what others think, what's happening out there etc. - maybe you can see places where you have been doing things wrong or you can see that some people (not many on here of course ;) ) have some faulty ideas and adjust your game and mindset to exploiting this, either way on forums you can learn what's happening on the ground so to speak - for me it's closer to the action than any book or website.

    The most well-known poker forum teeming with information is www.twoplustwo.com

    Huge load of info on this site, personally though I think it's a cumbersome forum to navigate though of course well worth it when you find what you are looking for. And of course it doesn't have the same community feeling like boards.ie, might explain why I have 80+ posts here in less than 4 weeks - and have less than 20 in over 2 years on 2+ 2 :D

    Anyway hope this helps... i best stfu now and get back to da day job(not 4 much longer :D )


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