Sligo vs Westmeath - Round 3 Qualifier

YeatsCounty

Have just read the match report of this match and I'm wondering what the hell happened that saw three players (O'Hara, Doohan and Egan) sent off in seperate incidents in extra time? What were we doing out there? Or did the referee lose the plot, i wonder? If anyone who was present could shed some light on what happened, I'd be very grateful.

Finished Westmeath 1-12 Sligo 0-14 after extra time. I thought that we really could beat Westmeath and make it to Round 4 (I wouldn't have minded a crack agains Offaly). Ah well, roll on next year.

monosharp

YeatsCounty wrote:

Have just read the match report of this match and I'm wondering what the hell happened that saw three Sligo players (O'Hara, Doohan and Egan) sent off in seperate incidents in extra time? What were we doing out there? Or did the referee lose the plot, i wonder? If anyone who was present could shed some light on what happened, I'd be very grateful.

Finished Westmeath 1-12 Sligo 0-14 after extra time. I thought that we really could beat Westmeath and make it to Round 4 (I wouldn't have minded a crack agains Offaly). Ah well, roll on next year.

Never in my life have i felt so cheated. Armagh in '02 comes close although it was completely the ref and not the Armagh lads i had problems with for that particular match.

I never had anything but respect for Dessie and Gary Dolan until yesterday but they proved that they are nothing but dirty miserable cheating ****ing tramps, both of them. Dessie and Gary would both make Chelsea's starting 11 just for their diving antics.

Westmeath did NOT deserve to draw that match nevermind win it. The referee was an absolute ****ing disgrace, i've seen some bad referees in my time, i've seen a referee who never played hurling ref a hurling match (that was bad), but yesterday beat it all.

Westmeath players were getting away with i don't know how many fouls but it seemed it you wore a black jersey any offence was met with a yellow. At one point Dessie "****ing miserable tramp" Dolan was tackled fairly and the sligo player (Who was this anyone ?) got a yellow.

Its some ****ing joke when Eamonn O'Hara can get a second yellow card for an incident that happened 50 yards away from him! ****ing disgrace of a linesman. What did he tell the ref ??? "Oh sher just book O'Hara", how the **** can you tell a referee about an incident when the only thing your sure about is the colour of the jersey involved ?

O'Hara was destroying Westmeath at midfield and anywhere he went all over the pitch. Now Eamonn is no ****ing angel and off the top of my head i can't remember another incident where he got sent off when he didn't deserve it but jesus christ he was the other side of the pitch!

And as for the point that WASN'T, how in gods name can the umpires call that one wrong ?? Its not like the ****ing sun was in their eyes. Even the westmeath fans beside me said it was wide as **** but they'd take it.

As for Brendan Egan and Doohan, they deserved their reds. The westmeath number 6 should have gone in the second half of normal time. He was constantly fouling everytime he went in for a tackle. Cannot understand how he stayed on the pitch so long.

Its an absolute disgrace that this happens at this level, it makes the whole GAA a joke.

****ing disgrace of a ref and ****ing cowardly cheating diving miserable ****ing westmeath players who thankfully won't get any further. Nothing but dirty miserable Leinster scum.

And as for Egan and Doohan red i was glad they went in but they picked the wrong men to go in on.

Westmeath ****er gave Egan a knee into the head on the ground, what did the ref do /? A ****ing ticking.

hawker

Not too happy with the result eh Monosharp!!

It's amazing how much you can moan about in one email. This, that and the other was wrong. Sligo fans seem to have a fierce problem taking their beating.

Culchie

hawker wrote:

Not too happy with the result eh Monosharp!!

It's amazing how much you can moan about in one email. This, that and the other was wrong. Sligo fans seem to have a fierce problem taking their beating.

Bit unfair that.

They were completely robbed by the referee, disgraceful ... bordering on cheating/bias.

Salmon

I was at the match too and from a Westmeath perspective I thought the ref ruined the game too!! We were winning near the end of the game, up by a point before O'Hara was sent off (Unfairly), the ref then realised that he had made a mistake and started to give sligo everthing to bring it to extra time!
Then in extra time he sent off another couple of sligo players and continued to give sligo everything! The two frees at the end that sligo got to put two points between the two teams were definately not frees, it smacked of a ref trying to make up for making a hash of the game. We got the goal at the end to steal the game, but I think a draw and replay would have been a great result. Credit to (most) sligo fans though they were gracious in defeat and it was a lovely day for a game of football. Hopefully it wont be the last connaught team well put out this year, but I think Galway might take some beating!!!

monosharp

Salmon wrote:

I was at the match too and from a Westmeath perspective I thought the ref ruined the game too!! We were winning near the end of the game, up by a point before O'Hara was sent off (Unfairly), the ref then realised that he had made a mistake and started to give sligo everthing to bring it to extra time!

You were at the match ? Funny that, because O'Hara was sent off in the first half of extra time, not the second half of ordinary time.

The ref gave sligo very little in comparison to Westmeath but by jesus he was inconsistent. Sligo got a few frees which should have gone and other way and westmeath got frees for perfectly legitimate tackles, especially during the 2nd half of ordinary time.

And that "point" you were up by was at LEAST 6 feet wide. Not even the westmeath fans near me believed it when the umpires raised the flag. Don't tell me you think that was over ?

And not only was O'Hara sent off in the wrong but Denis Glennon has a lot to answer for. As soon as the yellow was produced he got up and ran off like a rabbit. Cheating miserable little ****er.

Then in extra time he sent off another couple of sligo players and continued to give sligo everything!

Bull****. He gave us nothing more then he was giving you in extra time and the sligo players who were sent off deserved it, although Doohans offence could have maybe being given as a yellow instead, Egan definately deserved the line. Although i don't condone it i felt his frustrations.

How the hell was he giving us everything while sending off 2 of our players ??? Westmeath number 6 deserved to walk during the second half.

The two frees at the end that sligo got to put two points between the two teams were definately not frees, it smacked of a ref trying to make up for making a hash of the game. We got the goal at the end to steal the game, but I think a draw and replay would have been a great result. Credit to (most) sligo fans though they were gracious in defeat and it was a lovely day for a game of football. Hopefully it wont be the last connaught team well put out this year, but I think Galway might take some beating!!!

I have never felt as sickened and robbed in my life, Armagh in '02 was bad but there was no sour grape, Kildare was bad several times. We've had near chances and games we didn't deserve to win we've won, never before have i felt so sickened. We were robbed plainly and simply.

Too many things happened in the one match to simply accept it. We were robbed and due to no small part played by the play acting and diving of several Westmeath players.

Hitman Actual

Culchie wrote:

Bit unfair that.

They were completely robbed by the referee, disgraceful ... bordering on cheating/bias.

Were you at the game Culchie, I'd love to hear a thorough neutral analysis (you're a Mayo man, aren't you?).

I wasn't at the game, but I'd be very surprised if Dessie Dolan was doing a lot of diving. He gets a lot of attention from opposing defenders, but diving really isn't his style. Glennon, on the other hand, could have played for Portugal this summer and he wouldn't have been out of place (not skill-wise, obviously!).

Just looking at the free-stats: Westmeath awarded 19 (8 FH, 7 SH, 4ET), Sligo awarded 25 (7 FH, 11 SH, 7 ET). A 6-free difference is a big gap in football, so I dont see how anyone can say that Westmeath were given everything, although like I said I wasn't at the game. But the O'Hara sending off and that 'point' obviously swung the game in Westmeaths favour.

jamescrombie

more expierenced team won through and held there nerve..... Sligo deserved a draw but the last tackle by egan I think it was was disgraceful.... O donoghue got sent off for absolutely nothing barely touched his man..... Sligo were a joke , 2 men marking dessie dolan for the first 50 minutes so Healy was able to trot up and down the pitch for left back to left forward... as far as i am concerned Sligo messed up there tactics and lost because of that.... 2 men marking a half fit dessie and he still scored 8 points... tut tut sligo

The Rooster

I can see how Sligo feel hard done by.

Their best player Eamon O'Hara is sent off when he was about 40 yards away from the incident! And Westmeath were awarded a point that was a mile wide - I've seen some bad umprie decisions in my time, but its hard to imagine that one ever been beaten.

jamescrombie

Rooster if your a dub i would imagine cluxtons tackle has got to be up there with terrible dessions.... i think that deserved a straight RED

monosharp

jamescrombie wrote:

more expierenced team won through and held there nerve..... Sligo deserved a draw but the last tackle by egan I think it was was disgraceful.... O donoghue got sent off for absolutely nothing barely touched his man..... Sligo were a joke , 2 men marking dessie dolan for the first 50 minutes so Healy was able to trot up and down the pitch for left back to left forward... as far as i am concerned Sligo messed up there tactics and lost because of that.... 2 men marking a half fit dessie and he still scored 8 points... tut tut sligo

O Donoghue got sent off for constant fouling and should have gone in the second half of ordinary time.

The Rooster

jamescrombie wrote:

Rooster if your a dub i would imagine cluxtons tackle has got to be up there with terrible dessions.... i think that deserved a straight RED

If it was soccer, yes, but in GAA there is no concept of the professional foul. It was certainly a deliberate foul, but still only worthy of a yellow card. If it had happened further out the field, there would not be many claiming it was a red card offence. At the very most it was a debatable decision, so couldnt be anywhere near a "terrible decision", such as the two I mentioned in the WM-SO game.

phil

I watched some of the challenges on tele that the Westmeath (Denis Glennon in particular) took and if that's what was going on throughout the game, Sligo deserved to lose on that basis alone.

Two or three of those challenges warranted straight red cards and serious disciplinary action.

I can't talk about what went before nor did I see much of the match, but we're always told provocation doesn't excuse action and if you believe that, some of those Sligo challenges were absolutely disgraceful. If they had connected the way they seemed to intend to, they would have put some players in hospital.

Again, I can only go by the coverage I've seen. Sligo haven't got a reputation as a dirty team and what happened may have been as a direct result of the the referee or Westmeath, but no real excuse can be given for those challenges.

Pity to see, what should have been a good contest ruined by controversy and refereeing again though.

Btw, I have no bias towards Westmeath, I'm a Longford fan and would have loved to have seen Sligo go through.

Phil.

monosharp

phil wrote:

I watched some of the challenges on tele that the Westmeath (Denis Glennon in particular) took and if that's what was going on throughout the game, Sligo deserved to lose on that basis alone.

Two or three of those challenges warranted straight red cards and serious disciplinary action.

I can't talk about what went before nor did I see much of the match, but we're always told provocation doesn't excuse action and if you believe that, some of those Sligo challenges were absolutely disgraceful. If they had connected the way they seemed to intend to, they would have put some players in hospital.

Again, I can only go by the coverage I've seen. Sligo haven't got a reputation as a dirty team and what happened may have been as a direct result of the the referee or Westmeath, but no real excuse can be given for those challenges.

Pity to see, what should have been a good contest ruined by controversy and refereeing again though.

Btw, I have no bias towards Westmeath, I'm a Longford fan and would have loved to have seen Sligo go through.

Phil.

Phil there was 1 very dirty tackle, by Egan (at the end on Denis Glennon), he may have being a bit upset that a few minutes prior to this he tried to break John Fallons knee with his head. :mad:

And the ref gave Fallon a TICKING for this. Disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful referee.

Doohans tackle was mistimed but he definately deserved a yellow, i thought the red was a little harsh.

O'Hara was 40 yards away from the incident that he apparently committed. Sean Davey was the person responsible but O'Hara was sent off because the linesman ... i don't know. Pure utter blindness perhaps ? And either way, the little fecker westmeath player got right back up as soon as the card was shown and ran off like a rabbit on steroids. i.e > Cheating miserable little tramp.

I don't agree with you at all Phil but i'll be shouting for ye against Kerry. Good luck.

phil

I saw about 2 minutes of footage including what looked like some vicious intent on some of those tackles. Not enough for me to become judge and jury, but I admitted as much before!

I'm not disputing anything else that went on in the match, from what I saw on the refereeing it was a disgrace as well, but that's all been commented on, on this thread.

Yeh, come on the Longford ... the best of all the Fords!

patmac

monosharp wrote:

I never had anything but respect for Dessie and Gary Dolan until yesterday but they proved that they are nothing but dirty miserable cheating ****ing tramps, both of them. Dessie and Gary would both make Chelsea's starting 11 just for their diving antics.

I find this comment about Dessie Dolan very unfair but didn't comment about it because i was not at the match. Today I spoke to a Sligo friend of mine who was at the match, he told me that Dessie got an awful amount of stick from two Sligo defenders and one challenge in particular just before half time was so bad he was lucky to walk afterwards. He said Sligo were the better team but tried to walk the ball towards the goal and couldn't shoot from distance like Dessie. What everyone agrees on is that the referee was in favour of Westmeath, even to suggest he had a bet on it. If you heard Eamonn O'Hara on sportscall he said that Westmeath deserved to win and wished them the best of luck before describing his situation which I thought was disgraceful in the way he was treated. I think your anger should be directed at the referee and not try to sully the good name of one the cleanest, talented and most fouled forward in the country.

Hitman Actual

patmac wrote:

What everyone agrees on is that the referee was in favour of Westmeath, even to suggest he had a bet on it. I

Comments like this are crazy, patmac. The referee had a bad day, plain and simple, and when that happens in a tight game (which Westmeath and Sligo was always going to be), one of the teams is going to feel hard done by. If Westmeath had lost, they would probably feel sinned against as well. I really doubt that any inter-county referee goes out with intentional bias against any team.

Edit: BTW, I totally agree with you on the Dolans, well said. Dessie Dolan doesn't need to resort to that sort of crap.

monosharp

patmac wrote:

I find this comment about Dessie Dolan very unfair but didn't comment about it because i was not at the match. Today I spoke to a Sligo friend of mine who was at the match, he told me that Dessie got an awful amount of stick from two Sligo defenders and one challenge in particular just before half time was so bad he was lucky to walk afterwards. He said Sligo were the better team but tried to walk the ball towards the goal and couldn't shoot from distance like Dessie. What everyone agrees on is that the referee was in favour of Westmeath, even to suggest he had a bet on it. If you heard Eamonn O'Hara on sportscall he said that Westmeath deserved to win and wished them the best of luck before describing his situation which I thought was disgraceful in the way he was treated. I think your anger should be directed at the referee and not try to sully the good name of one the cleanest, talented and most fouled forward in the country.

After cooling down i agree i was very harsh on Dessie, i'm not someone who loses the head over matches ever. I've being witness to, and played in games where we were extremely unfairly treated but i took them all knowing that it always happens and sometimes it happens for us.

What got me going about this particular match was it wasn't just 1 bad decision, or one really really stupid thing to go against us, it was several. Its like Westmeath were destined to win and God, Mother nature and father time were all working togeather to make bloody sure they did.

I am not a sour person, i wasn't sour after '02 against Armagh (clear penalty not given) but westmeath did NOT deserve to win. The match should have being a draw.

Not before i get slated for saying the above i want to state the following.

1. Before the match i would have put my £ on Westmeath. i.e > They ARE a better team.
2. If it had being a replay i would have put my money on Westmeath.

But we were absolutely robbed by a combination of the referee, the linesman, the umpires and some westmeath players thinking they're Ronaldo.

Eamon O'Hara is a class act, and a superb player. He was wiping westmeath out in midfield and i would have gladly had 4 players sent off instead of him.

patmac

lenny_leonard wrote:

Comments like this are crazy, patmac. The referee had a bad day, plain and simple, and when that happens in a tight game (which Westmeath and Sligo was always going to be), one of the teams is going to feel hard done by. If Westmeath had lost, they would probably feel sinned against as well. I really doubt that any inter-county referee goes out with intentional bias against any team.

I agree that no referee would go out to lose a game but I heard that their was a former footballer come who was banned for the betting on outcomes of matches (anyone else heard that story?).
Also fairplay to you monosharp for your retraction on Dessie also my friend said Sligo deserved to win as well so I'm not disputing it. I'm sure you will wish us well against Galway.

goonthedan

patmac wrote:

I agree that no referee would go out to lose a game but I heard that their was a former footballer come who was banned for the betting on outcomes of matches (anyone else heard that story?).
Also fairplay to you monosharp for your retraction on Dessie also my friend said Sligo deserved to win as well so I'm not disputing it. I'm sure you will wish us well against Galway.

no i hope galway wipe the floor with ye , and the ref ruined sligos chance of having a great year

Hitman Actual

goonthedan wrote:

no i hope galway wipe the floor with ye , and the ref ruined sligos chance of having a great year

LOL, wrong forum; I think you're looking for the Hoganstand message boards.

goonthedan

ammmm what??? tats not funny , unless ur using some dublin knacker slang????

Hitman Actual

It wasn't meant to be funny. My apologies, I assumed you were familiar with the Hoganstand message boards; that's generally where bitter GAA souls go to to deal out anonymous abuse. You know the type of guy: has a problem taking defeat graciously, always finds someone else to blame. The Sligo game was nearly a week ago, get over it.

goonthedan

i will hav 2 get ova your mother first, ah no i apologise for tat, but u prob not at game so shut up ,

Imposter

goonthedan wrote:

i will hav 2 get ova your mother first, ah no i apologise for tat, but u prob not at game so shut up ,

I sense you're going to be popular here!

Waylander

goonthedan wrote:

ammmm what??? tats not funny , unless ur using some dublin knacker slang????

If you are going to slag people off about how they talk I suggest you learn to spell and write first!

Hitman Actual

goonthedan wrote:

i will hav 2 get ova your mother first, ah no i apologise for tat, but u prob not at game so shut up ,

I'd love to post a proper response to this, but I reckon I'd get dragged down to an idiot level where I cant possibly win, so gl.

patmac

lenny_leonard wrote:

I'd love to post a proper response to this, but I reckon I'd get dragged down to an idiot level where I cant possibly win, so gl.

Someone once said never argue with fools or drunks sound advice. Had a soft spot for Sligo before this, losing it rapidly.

goonthedan

oh that really hurt my feelings pat mac , i think i am very upset , oh i'm cool i'm from ballinasloe,

by the way what u even doing on this fourm ??

and LENNY your weird!!,

even westmeath people were sayin we were robbed last saturday , but lets forgive and forget (except for that *hit ref and linesman)

goonthedan

sorry my friend got my password and logged in as me , sorry

patmac

No problem