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convert cd tracks on computer to mp3 cd

  • 15-07-2006 4:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭


    As the title say in one easy go


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Nero


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭paconnors


    tried it it wont work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Are you talking about raw cdda files here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭radiospan


    What format are the files on your computer? Are they mp3? wav? or are they still on an audio CD?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭paconnors


    i encoded them off windows media player on to hard drive


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭radiospan


    Depending on what settings were used in Windows Media Player, these files will probably be either WMA or MP3 on your computer.

    If they are WMA you should change the settings in Windows Media Player and re-rip them from the CD to MP3. (a program like CDex can do this too).

    Once you have the tracks as MP3 files on your computer, use Nero to burn them as a data CD.

    I think you should be able to hold the equivalent of at least 8 normal audio CD's on an MP3 CD.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    doesn't media player have some ****ty copy protection option when you're ripping CDs to "protect" your music files. Think it is on by default too which may mean all your tracks are encoded to be prevented from being put onto and Audio CD.

    I think the above is the case - anyone else know about this???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭radiospan


    Yeah I think when it's making WMA's it does some kind of DRM protection on it. I've never used it for ripping CDs.

    CDex is probably the best, easiest CD to MP3 ripper.

    Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cdexos/cdex_170b2_enu.exe?download


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    I have used Audiocatalyst for many years to rip from CD to MP3. I think there is copy protection when you rip using Windows Media. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Yeah WMP does have the DRM on by default, you can just unclick the option and rip away mad.

    Google results:
    http://www.google.ie/search?q=wma+to+mp3&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    paconnors wrote:
    tried it it wont work?
    Burn as a regular data disc. Nero tends to think an mp3 cd is a regular audio CC made from mp3 files, which is presumably precisely what you don't want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭gnashrr


    For best results rip tracks from CD to hard drive with Nero's mp3Pro Plug-In (not the default one the package comes with) and burn from hard drive to blank media using the same software suite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    gnashrr wrote:
    For best results rip tracks from CD to hard drive with Nero's mp3Pro Plug-In (not the default one the package comes with) and burn from hard drive to blank media using the same software suite.

    What difference does using that plug in make?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭gnashrr


    In comparison to what exactly? Regular Nero mp3 encoding plug-in? Alot, speed and quality among other things, read the link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    gnashrr wrote:
    In comparison to what exactly? Regular Nero mp3 encoding plug-in? Alot, speed and quality among other things, read the link.

    Thats just an ad.

    What portables play back MP3Pro? Is it better than Lame at a HQ bitrate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭gnashrr


    Thats just an ad.
    Yes it's an ad but it does exactly what it says on the tin.
    What portables play back MP3Pro?

    Nero's mp3Pro will not output a different file format than the Nero's Lame mp3 because it's just a different encoder. If a given portable mp3 player can play an mp3 encoded by one it can play them encoded by all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    What difference does using that plug in make?
    Essentially it halves the size of the file.

    Also because most players don't play the pro bit of the file it ensures that your ripped track sounds like crap on most commercial players.

    Personally I wouldn't touch it. There are better ways to compress audio than mp3, sure. Most of them are also better than mp3 pro, with a half-ass chance of being recognised by a hardware audio player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    gnashrr wrote:
    Yes it's an ad but it does exactly what it says on the tin.



    Nero's mp3Pro will not output a different file format than the Nero's Lame mp3 because it's just a different encoder. If a given portable mp3 player can play an mp3 encoded by one it can play them encoded by all.

    I thought MP3 Pro WAS a different encoding.

    I note you didn't mention quality in your reply. Lame has been substantially improved in terms of quality over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭gnashrr


    sceptre wrote:
    Personally I wouldn't touch it. There are better ways to compress audio than mp3, sure. Most of them are also better than mp3 pro, with a half-ass chance of being recognised by a hardware audio player.
    I've never had any problems with mp3Pro.

    There are of course better lossless ways to encode audio than mp3 but seeing as this thread is entitled 'convert cd tracks on computer to mp3 cd' what mp3 codec would you recommend as an alternative to mp3Pro? EAC? LAME?

    Also you have a much better chance of a run of the mill hardware audio player playing an mp3 than any other type of specialised rarer media like flac etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭gnashrr


    I thought MP3 Pro WAS a different encoding.
    It is different encoding but you will be able to play it just like an mp3 encoded by something else. An mp3 is an mp3 is an mp3.
    I note you didn't mention quality in your reply. Lame has been substantially improved in terms of quality over the years.
    gnashrr wrote:
    Alot, speed and quality among other things, read the link.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    Is EAC its own Codec?

    LAME is the best MP3 codec IMO.

    Most of the Cowon/iAudio play FLAC with rockbox and iPod can play it too. The iRiver H1xx/H3xx can play it too with Rockbox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    Seems like your accepting that advertisment as gospel. Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    gnashrr wrote:
    It is different encoding but you will be able to play it just like an mp3 encoded by something else. An mp3 is an mp3 is an mp3.

    Only if the standard MP3 part (not the Pro part) encoded by the MP3Pro addon is better then the Lame Encoder. Somehow I doubt that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭gnashrr


    Seems like your accepting that advertisment as gospel. Why?

    I'm not accepting it as gospel, I've used it and it's the best IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭TempestSabre


    gnashrr wrote:
    I'm not accepting it as gospel, I've used it and it's the best IMO.

    How did you compare them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭radiospan


    LAME *is* the best MP3 codec. It's used by EAC and CDex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Simon201


    In reply to original post - iTunes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    gnashrr wrote:
    There are of course better lossless ways to encode audio than mp3 but seeing as this thread is entitled 'convert cd tracks on computer to mp3 cd' what mp3 codec would you recommend as an alternative to mp3Pro? EAC? LAME?
    EAC is essentially just a front end ripping program.

    LAME has long been considered the best encoder for ripping at high bitrates for good reason.

    For mp3pro, keeping in mind there's close enough to sod all portable hardware support for it, it's useful for files encoded at low bit rates and quite useful for encoding regular speech files purely due to the space used but two things have to be remembered - the big feature of mp3pro is the enhanced speech band recognition which doesn't do anything useful for music files and secondly when encoding files at lower bitrates the files are small enough relative to their length that most people wouldn't consider the space saving benefit to be significant in any case. SBR wasn't designed for use with higher bitrate files so I really can't see why anyone would say it's better or even significantly more useful at all.

    Simple recommendation for music files that are encoded as mp3s: variable bitrate files using the extreme (or higher) presets (also ensuring that the sampling frequency is at least 44.1kHz) with a recent implementation of LAME as the encoder at the back end and any front end program that suits the user as it's just a matter of convenience what front end program anyone wants to use. For lots of files the standard preset tends to to do the job.
    gnashrr wrote:
    Also you have a much better chance of a run of the mill hardware audio player playing an mp3 than any other type of specialised rarer media like flac etc.
    The trouble as I see it is that unless your run of the mill hardware audio player is one of a very small range produced by RCA that they don't produce any more your player is guaranteed to play only the part of the mp3pro file that confirms to the original mp3 spec so can't play the thing at higher than half the sampling rate (generally 22.5kHz or 24kHz) of an equivalent mp3 file.


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