push my big pairs after a raise after this hand getting shown?

accensi0n

[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Hand Start.
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 1 : AndyButcher has $101.50
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 2 : camlet has $11.35
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 3 : green06 has $201.61
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 4 : hero has $114
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 5 : tik-hal has $229.50
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 6 : black41 has $19
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : tik-hal is the dealer.
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : black41 posted small blind.
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : AndyButcher posted big blind.
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Game [75043] started with 6 players.
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jul 12 17:01:03] : Seat 4 : hero has Qs Ad
[Jul 12 17:01:07] : camlet called $1
[Jul 12 17:01:10] : green06 called $1
[Jul 12 17:01:14] : hero called $1 and raised $4
[Jul 12 17:01:21] : tik-hal called $5
[Jul 12 17:01:21] : black41 folded.
[Jul 12 17:01:24] : AndyButcher folded.
[Jul 12 17:01:27] : camlet called $4 and raised $6.35 and is All-in
[Jul 12 17:01:29] : green06 folded.
[Jul 12 17:01:31] : hero called $6.35 and raised $102.65 and is All-in
[Jul 12 17:01:33] : tik-hal folded.
[Jul 12 17:01:33] : Showdown!
[Jul 12 17:01:33] : Seat 4 : hero has Qs Ad
[Jul 12 17:01:35] : Seat 2 : camlet has 8c 8s
[Jul 12 17:01:35] : Seat 4 : hero has Qs Ad
[Jul 12 17:01:44] : Board cards [3d Jh Ac 3h 6d]
[Jul 12 17:01:44] : Seat 4 : hero has Qs Ad
[Jul 12 17:01:44] : eog has Two Pair: Aces and 3s
[Jul 12 17:01:44] : Seat 2 : camlet has 8c 8s
[Jul 12 17:01:44] : camlet has Two Pair: 8s and 3s
[Jul 12 17:01:44] : hero wins $28.70 with Two Pair: Aces and 3s
[Jul 12 17:01:54] : Hand is over.


Comments on play very welcome along with answering my question.

Cheers.

Mr. Flibble

Looks like scary stuff, hope you had a read on tik-hal.

Suppose if you think any of those deep stack players are capable calling an allin PF with AK or QQ or less it wouldn't be a bad move.

ianmc38

Why are you trying to isolate with AQ in a cash game? That's brutal tbh.

If you are making similar moves with rubbish and your table thinks you're a donk then by all means push your big pairs.

Generally, it's unbelievably bad to play premium hands like that unless you're at a table full of idiots.

Hectorjelly

ianmc38 wrote:

Why are you trying to isolate with AQ in a cash game? That's brutal tbh.

I dont get this at all, whats brutal about it? Isolating with any 2 cards here is probably profitable, with AQ theres no other way to play it.

Accencsions play is absolutley fine and is along the right lines, however theres no need to bet so much. Just make it 20+ more or so, just in case tik-hal smooth called with AA/kk/AK

accensi0n

Mr. Flibble wrote:

Looks like scary stuff, hope you had a read on tik-hal.

Suppose if you think any of those deep stack players are capable calling an allin PF with AK or QQ or less it wouldn't be a bad move.

I do. There was no way he would have called my re-raise.

ianmc38 wrote:

Why are you trying to isolate with AQ in a cash game? That's brutal tbh.

If you are making similar moves with rubbish and your table thinks you're a donk then by all means push your big pairs.

Generally, it's unbelievably bad to play premium hands like that unless you're at a table full of idiots.

I'm isolating a short stack with 11 bb's. I'm ahead of his range the majority of the time. The reason I made the move was because there was an idiot at the table with 100 bb's and the other 2 would probably think I'm a retard and call with a hand as bad as 10 10/AK if I pushed again (with a premium)



Thoughts/Beratings?

Gholimoli

as HJ said i think reraising is fine but going all in is not as your making to expensive for your self to find out if he has AA,KK.

fuzzbox

Gholimoli wrote:

as HJ said i think reraising is fine but going all in is not as your making to expensive for your self to find out if he has AA,KK.

And how much would you make it then?

After your call, the pot would be something in the region of $30.

How do you raise and get away from a push?

ianmc38

Hectorjelly wrote:

I dont get this at all, whats brutal about it? Isolating with any 2 cards here is probably profitable, with AQ theres no other way to play it.

Going all-in sucks when another player still has to act. If he calls you're fooked.

Ascension yes you're happy to get headsup here against a shortstacks wide range but it's a dangerous move to push with a player to act behind you. When a shorty is all-in and the pot is multiway, i'll often smooth call with KK/AA trying to extract more from the other player left in the sidepot.

DeadParrot

Yer man Andybutcher is an a$$hole

accensi0n

DeadParrot wrote:

Yer man Andybutcher is an a$$hole

bad player or just a$$hole?

I think my notes on him just say something like "havn't seen him do much, not a retard."

accensi0n

ianmc38 wrote:

Going all-in sucks when another player still has to act. If he calls you're fooked.

Ascension yes you're happy to get headsup here against a shortstacks wide range but it's a dangerous move to push with a player to act behind you. When a shorty is all-in and the pot is multiway, i'll often smooth call with KK/AA trying to extract more from the other player left in the sidepot.

The shorty called, I raised to 5 bb's, big stack called my raise and THEN shorty pushed.

I would expect big stack to re-raise me with AA/KK, thats why I felt safe pushing and trying to create an image of someone that pushes with a biggish A.

But I do understand what your saying. I also appreciate all the comments. cheers.

Aedh Baclamh

I would have been VERY weary of tik hal.

DeadParrot

accensi0n wrote:

bad player or just a$$hole?

I think my notes on him just say something like "havn't seen him do much, not a retard."

not a terrible player but an absolute prick, some fella sat down and it was a freindly enough .10/.20 table and he went to town on this chap, really ripped into him, table banter is fine but this fella was a real cock.

AmarilloFats

Nice hand..I play it same.
I maybe make it a little more pre but meh...