Theory

darrenh

think this is the best theory i've seen so far

The Valenzetti Equation Theory

The Valenzetti Equation is a mathematical relationship that is used to predict the future (crudely speaking). It is a type of mathematical forecasting. The map mentions an area of the island that has “Low Relevance to Valenzetti Research”. So, what is happening on the island and where does this equation come into play.

The DHARMA initiative was an active project with the Hanso Foundation, however it is no longer on the Hanso Foundation website. That is because the DHARMA initiative has completed. It seems that all of the active projects of the Hanso Foundation seem to focus on future betterment of everything. This is because the Hanso Foundation is using the Valenzetti Equation to predict changes in the world. The Valenzetti Equation analysis is the Mathematical Forecasting Initiative on the HF active projects.

In more general terms, the island belongs to the HF. This is why Alvar Hanso addressed the UN in 1967, so that he could present his ideas to the UN and they could decide on an isolated place in the world where this research could be performed.

The stated goal of the DHARMA initiative according to the map is the Repatriation Accelerated Deterritorialization of Polar Bears with genetic therapy and extreme climate change. In English, this basically means that the goal of the DHARMA initiative was to take polar bears out of their natural environment and see if they could basically de-evolve the polar bear back to its non-cold dependant state. Polar bears evolved from the standard brown bear (their DNA only varies by a small percent along the lines of a hundredth of a percent) due to a change in climate, so gene therapy and climate change would theoretically be able to de-evolve the polar bear back to the state of a brown bear and maybe even into a new state (one that can tolerate high temperatures).

They did this because the Valenzetti Equation predicted that the polar bears would be extinct. The results of the DHARMA initiative show that it is possible to save animals from extinction, or moreover, it is possible to change the environment dependence of an animal.

Whether this was the only goal of the DHARMA initiative is unclear, however, it appears that DHARMA is completely dismantled.

The Hanso Foundation also has the Mental Health Appeal. If you look on the bios of the executive, you will see that the man all the way on the right had cancer of some sort, and after the Hanso Foundation cured him, he was offered a job with the HF as an executive. Remember how Libby was in the mental institution? The HF cured her with this initiative, and then hired her as an executive (The Liddy chick).

The Valenzetti Equation also predicts certain diseases that would happen on the planet. This is where the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program comes into play. The sickness that Danielle and company encountered was the disease that the VE predicted and that the WWPDP spread on the island. It was done to develop a prevention of the disease when it hits the world.

The HF has a Genomic Advancement Program, which is a program that creates ways for human advancement pre-emptively or even during adulthood. This could be the drug that is being implanted in Claire, or the drug that the people who man the hatch are taking, which is a way of creating a genomic advancement research. The idea being that maybe pushing the button is a way of telling whether the advancement is working. You have two guys down in the hatch for a year and a half who have to push the button every 108 minutes for that long. Maybe the first people down there didn’t last all 540 days, so the drug was changed, and then the next group was sent in and maybe they lasted longer, but not the entire 540 days and so on.

It is possible that eventually, a pair of people lasted 540 days, and so they changed the experiment to see the results of one person: Desmond. The reason Desmond crashed isn’t revealed, but I bet when we do find out, it will be HF related. This program is also used to find cures.

The EM research project that EVERYONE talks about could actually be quite simple. It is relatively unclear what exactly is being researched, but the Valenzetti Equation most likely predicts a change in the magnetic field of the earth, and so the magnet on the island is used to change the true north of the island. I don’t know what effects of this true north shift are being analyzed, but I will get into this later.

Finally, the Life Extension Project has to do with Joop. I don’t think Joop is on the island, but he may be important. I will discuss that later.

To sum up the first part of this theory, the Island is an independent land where the HF has acquired worldwide permission to use for research related to the Valenzetti Equation. There are multiple research teams on the island as of right now and each of them are independent of the other. Remember when the producers asked “did Ethan know Goodwin?” They are part of two different research teams. Which means that the plane was separated for a reason.

We shall start with the middle section of the plane. Part of the WWPDP is to show that people live better and fuller lives when they are isolated from complications and have only simplistic issues to deal with. Now, I understand that a plane crash on an island isn’t exactly a “simplistic” issue, but they are living better now. They have things provided to them, simple as they may be (water, food, shelter). They also have a basic collaboration of skilled people, meaning that the skills/personalities are diverse and useful enough to create a good enough general society for the purpose of this research. The reason for this is because the Valenzetti Equation predicts a coming event that is going to cause catastrophe and the ultimate result is going to be a limited number of survivors forced to form a universal community similar to the crash.

(As a better example explanation, if there is a catastrophic natural event to happen on Earth that kills off the majority of people on the planet as well as a great deal of technology, the disorientation of the people who survive would be almost exactly the same as the disorientation of the people in the plane crash. The difference is that the plane crash is just a smaller scale example.)

The ultimate purpose of this portion is to see how well they survive and what would be needed to ultimately recreate society after a high-extinction event.

The tail section was mainly a part of the Genomic Advancement Project. This is most likely to increase the speed of mental development. Remember when we saw Alex? She seemed extremely advanced for a 16 year old girl. A more generalized explanation could be this. Let us say that the VE predicts the a catastrophic to happen 15 years from now. It would be VERY beneficial for the children as of right now to develop mentally at an accelerated rate so that when the end comes, the younger people are more advanced and helpful than they would have been otherwise. Also, they can see the effects of advancing adults as well.

Of course, Claire was an outlier. She was taken for her kid obviously as part of the GAP, which means that there may be some kind of overlapping of research teams.

Assuming Libby is actually the HF executive in charge of the Mental Health Appeal, she is probably intentionally hanging around Hurley to see if the situation on the island is helpful to Hurley’s mental health (i.e. is it making it better/)

I know my descriptions are kind of sketchy and all over the place, so to give things a bit more order, here is a timeline.

Alvar Hanso addresses the UN to gain permission and access to conduct Valenzetti research on a remote location that the general world powers would keep secret from the rest of the world.

The HF sponsors the DHARMA Initiative to use the island as a result of the prediction by the VE about the extinction of Polar Bears.

The Incident occurs. If we assume the incident was fabricated, this would indicate the beginning of the GAP experiment with genetic enhancers. If the incident was real, it may refers to two separate research teams finding each other. Mainly, the Incident is VERY ambiguous and I think that we probably wont be able to infer what exactly happened and why it was an “incident”.

A control tower begins to broadcast the numbers, resulting in Danielle’s boat crashing on the island. The “sickness” is a disease created by the WWPDP as a result of the VE predicting this outbreak in the future. The quarantine words are spray painted in the manned hatches so the people in them are not exposed to the sickness.

The cure for the disease is released on the island in the form of a “field” such that it remains there. This cure may actually not just cure the disease, but other ailments as well (resulting in the cures of Locke, Rose, and Jin).

Desmond’s boat crashes on the island and he is taken to the hatch by Kelvin to predicate another experiment.

Kelvin “dies”.

The plane crashes, initiating more research projects as described above.

Basically, the VE is used by the HF to predict coming disasters. The HF has the approval of the UN to use the island as a generalized research area. The HF also has their approval to use methods that would be considered unlawful to conduct this research (intentionally causing a plane crash, using people as lab rats etc.). The reason is because the VE predicts the end of the world and the HF wants to ensure the continuation of the human race. The numbers are probably a result of the VE or a solution of the VE or something of that sort.

Miguel_Sanchez

Put some spoiler tags in or else title the thread so people know it's not for people who haven't seen all of Season 2.

darrenh

im only up to date with RTE. dont think there is many spoilers there!

Miguel_Sanchez

Probably isn't - my mistake.

Faith

Can anybody sum that up for me in one sentence or less?

Sherifu

Faith wrote:

Can anybody sum that up for me in one sentence or less?

He's Luke's father.

no i haven't read it either

The Hill Billy

Faith wrote:

Can anybody sum that up for me in one sentence or less?

They took his boy.

Steoob

Lol

Steoob

Lol

robnubis

So emm, i dotn have an hour to spare, sum up in 2 lines of less plzthx.

(jesus tbh, who has that much tiem to write a theory....GODDDD DAIMMMMM.

Grom

Basically hanzo and dharma are working out problems that could occur in the real world but doing it on an island in a much smaller scale.

And they are coming up with these real world scenarios that will occur in the future with the help of a ve, an algorithim if you wish that predicts the future.

HENCE the plane crash being something like a world extinction and how a diverse group of people come together and bond in order to maintain life.

Hope thats right

Silage

So basically, from a losties point of view, its a big test?

All that stuff sounds like Chaos theory!

Gillo

Faith wrote:

Can anybody sum that up for me in one sentence or less?

Don't worry I gave up 3 paragraphs in, it may of been more. I think I'll just sit in the corner quietly and watch it. I think the last paragraph of the OP's post kinda sums it up.

Sorry to ruin it, but it's a TV show it's not actually real, if you have ability to come up with a theory like that for god sake use your brain for something useful.

trishw78

I read it all I want the golden star. It's an interesting Theory, but a little complicated for the average joe american to understand.

nedward

A lot of the survivors seem to have bad relationships with family and boy/girlfriends in the real world. Jack didn't get on with his old man, as did Locke. Kate blew him up. Jin had some problems with his father-in-law, for whom he worked. Ana Lucia hated her mother. Michael divorced his wife. Desmond had problems with his Penny.

Probably nothing, but it struck me as odd.

chamlis

It's the best theory I've read so far. Take the time, people...

Bard

trishw78 wrote:

I read it all I want the golden star. It's an interesting Theory, but a little complicated for the average joe american to understand.

So is the game of chess for that matter.

Or the forming of coherent sentences...

Or... oh, nevermind!

wba88

long but good theory. cant beleive i read it all.

bluto63

It's a good theory, but...did I miss out on something? Because I can't see where you got half of your info

Miguel_Sanchez

bluto63 wrote:

It's a good theory, but...did I miss out on something? Because I can't see where you got half of your info

He probably got it from the Hanso Foundation websites and all that stuff that's doing the rounds on the web. Haven't had the time to look into it myself - the show is enough for me, thanks very much.

darrenh

i actually got it from dharmasecrets.com. its a great site with loads of brilliant sites.

darrenh

that was meant to say loads of brilliant theories!

september18

darrenh wrote:

think this is the best theory i've seen so far

The Valenzetti Equation Theory

The Valenzetti Equation is a mathematical relationship that is used to predict the future (crudely speaking). It is a type of mathematical forecasting. The map mentions an area of the island that has “Low Relevance to Valenzetti Research”. So, what is happening on the island and where does this equation come into play.

The DHARMA initiative was an active project with the Hanso Foundation, however it is no longer on the Hanso Foundation website. That is because the DHARMA initiative has completed. It seems that all of the active projects of the Hanso Foundation seem to focus on future betterment of everything. This is because the Hanso Foundation is using the Valenzetti Equation to predict changes in the world. The Valenzetti Equation analysis is the Mathematical Forecasting Initiative on the HF active projects.

In more general terms, the island belongs to the HF. This is why Alvar Hanso addressed the UN in 1967, so that he could present his ideas to the UN and they could decide on an isolated place in the world where this research could be performed.

The stated goal of the DHARMA initiative according to the map is the Repatriation Accelerated Deterritorialization of Polar Bears with genetic therapy and extreme climate change. In English, this basically means that the goal of the DHARMA initiative was to take polar bears out of their natural environment and see if they could basically de-evolve the polar bear back to its non-cold dependant state. Polar bears evolved from the standard brown bear (their DNA only varies by a small percent along the lines of a hundredth of a percent) due to a change in climate, so gene therapy and climate change would theoretically be able to de-evolve the polar bear back to the state of a brown bear and maybe even into a new state (one that can tolerate high temperatures).

They did this because the Valenzetti Equation predicted that the polar bears would be extinct. The results of the DHARMA initiative show that it is possible to save animals from extinction, or moreover, it is possible to change the environment dependence of an animal.

Whether this was the only goal of the DHARMA initiative is unclear, however, it appears that DHARMA is completely dismantled.

The Hanso Foundation also has the Mental Health Appeal. If you look on the bios of the executive, you will see that the man all the way on the right had cancer of some sort, and after the Hanso Foundation cured him, he was offered a job with the HF as an executive. Remember how Libby was in the mental institution? The HF cured her with this initiative, and then hired her as an executive (The Liddy chick).

The Valenzetti Equation also predicts certain diseases that would happen on the planet. This is where the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program comes into play. The sickness that Danielle and company encountered was the disease that the VE predicted and that the WWPDP spread on the island. It was done to develop a prevention of the disease when it hits the world.

The HF has a Genomic Advancement Program, which is a program that creates ways for human advancement pre-emptively or even during adulthood. This could be the drug that is being implanted in Claire, or the drug that the people who man the hatch are taking, which is a way of creating a genomic advancement research. The idea being that maybe pushing the button is a way of telling whether the advancement is working. You have two guys down in the hatch for a year and a half who have to push the button every 108 minutes for that long. Maybe the first people down there didn’t last all 540 days, so the drug was changed, and then the next group was sent in and maybe they lasted longer, but not the entire 540 days and so on.

It is possible that eventually, a pair of people lasted 540 days, and so they changed the experiment to see the results of one person: Desmond. The reason Desmond crashed isn’t revealed, but I bet when we do find out, it will be HF related. This program is also used to find cures.

The EM research project that EVERYONE talks about could actually be quite simple. It is relatively unclear what exactly is being researched, but the Valenzetti Equation most likely predicts a change in the magnetic field of the earth, and so the magnet on the island is used to change the true north of the island. I don’t know what effects of this true north shift are being analyzed, but I will get into this later.

Finally, the Life Extension Project has to do with Joop. I don’t think Joop is on the island, but he may be important. I will discuss that later.

To sum up the first part of this theory, the Island is an independent land where the HF has acquired worldwide permission to use for research related to the Valenzetti Equation. There are multiple research teams on the island as of right now and each of them are independent of the other. Remember when the producers asked “did Ethan know Goodwin?” They are part of two different research teams. Which means that the plane was separated for a reason.

We shall start with the middle section of the plane. Part of the WWPDP is to show that people live better and fuller lives when they are isolated from complications and have only simplistic issues to deal with. Now, I understand that a plane crash on an island isn’t exactly a “simplistic” issue, but they are living better now. They have things provided to them, simple as they may be (water, food, shelter). They also have a basic collaboration of skilled people, meaning that the skills/personalities are diverse and useful enough to create a good enough general society for the purpose of this research. The reason for this is because the Valenzetti Equation predicts a coming event that is going to cause catastrophe and the ultimate result is going to be a limited number of survivors forced to form a universal community similar to the crash.

(As a better example explanation, if there is a catastrophic natural event to happen on Earth that kills off the majority of people on the planet as well as a great deal of technology, the disorientation of the people who survive would be almost exactly the same as the disorientation of the people in the plane crash. The difference is that the plane crash is just a smaller scale example.)

The ultimate purpose of this portion is to see how well they survive and what would be needed to ultimately recreate society after a high-extinction event.

The tail section was mainly a part of the Genomic Advancement Project. This is most likely to increase the speed of mental development. Remember when we saw Alex? She seemed extremely advanced for a 16 year old girl. A more generalized explanation could be this. Let us say that the VE predicts the a catastrophic to happen 15 years from now. It would be VERY beneficial for the children as of right now to develop mentally at an accelerated rate so that when the end comes, the younger people are more advanced and helpful than they would have been otherwise. Also, they can see the effects of advancing adults as well.

Of course, Claire was an outlier. She was taken for her kid obviously as part of the GAP, which means that there may be some kind of overlapping of research teams.

Assuming Libby is actually the HF executive in charge of the Mental Health Appeal, she is probably intentionally hanging around Hurley to see if the situation on the island is helpful to Hurley’s mental health (i.e. is it making it better/)

I know my descriptions are kind of sketchy and all over the place, so to give things a bit more order, here is a timeline.

Alvar Hanso addresses the UN to gain permission and access to conduct Valenzetti research on a remote location that the general world powers would keep secret from the rest of the world.

The HF sponsors the DHARMA Initiative to use the island as a result of the prediction by the VE about the extinction of Polar Bears.

The Incident occurs. If we assume the incident was fabricated, this would indicate the beginning of the GAP experiment with genetic enhancers. If the incident was real, it may refers to two separate research teams finding each other. Mainly, the Incident is VERY ambiguous and I think that we probably wont be able to infer what exactly happened and why it was an “incident”.

A control tower begins to broadcast the numbers, resulting in Danielle’s boat crashing on the island. The “sickness” is a disease created by the WWPDP as a result of the VE predicting this outbreak in the future. The quarantine words are spray painted in the manned hatches so the people in them are not exposed to the sickness.

The cure for the disease is released on the island in the form of a “field” such that it remains there. This cure may actually not just cure the disease, but other ailments as well (resulting in the cures of Locke, Rose, and Jin).

Desmond’s boat crashes on the island and he is taken to the hatch by Kelvin to predicate another experiment.

Kelvin “dies”.

The plane crashes, initiating more research projects as described above.

Basically, the VE is used by the HF to predict coming disasters. The HF has the approval of the UN to use the island as a generalized research area. The HF also has their approval to use methods that would be considered unlawful to conduct this research (intentionally causing a plane crash, using people as lab rats etc.). The reason is because the VE predicts the end of the world and the HF wants to ensure the continuation of the human race. The numbers are probably a result of the VE or a solution of the VE or something of that sort.

Thats a fine analysis there. What we have to realise here is that ....its a tv programme. fantasy mate ,get over it and get out more.the weather is lovely.

EamonnKeane

Basically hanzo and dharma are working out problems that could occur in the real world but doing it on an island in a much smaller scale.

The Lucozade ad was right! "it's a computer program, running..."

Gillo

September18 was there really any need to quote the entire first post??