Comreg to Eircom , No Proper Phone Lines In Ireland Until after July 2010

Sponge Bob

Comreg are setting the USO in stone until end June 2010 so they will not be making eircom supply copper or an adequate copper substitute like fibre or wireless , no siRREEEEEEe .

If your line if crap now please wait 4 more years before annoying Comreg about it as we have decided its not our job to ensure that Irish people get phone lines with Functional Internet Access . Thanks. Piss off.

http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/ComReg0629.pdf

Its official

viking

Creative Labs submitted that the factors mentioned in the Consultation Document were fair, but believed there was one glaring omission – the high failure rate for Broadband on Irish phone lines

If a multi-national such as Creative Labs has taken the time to submit a response to Comreg regarding the "glaring omission" of the high failure rate for BB on Irish phone lines then it is obvious to anyone that we have a major problem with the telecoms network in Ireland.

Sponge Bob

viking wrote:

a multi-national such as Creative Labs has taken the time to submit a response to Comreg regarding the "glaring omission" of the high failure rate for BB on Irish phone lines

But Comreg knew that would happen. Its a well known feature of Irish phone lines and not a bug .

Irish people may very well pay the highest line rental on the entire planet but it entitles us to nothing ....not as long as we have Comreg to 'regulate' on our behalf.

viking

Sponge Bob wrote:

But Comreg knew that would happen. Its a well known feature of Irish phone lines and not a bug..

Ah the old chestnut:

"thats not a bug, its expected behaviour..."TM

juliuspret

Sponge Bob wrote:

But Comreg knew that would happen. Its a well known feature of Irish phone lines and not a bug .

Irish people may very well pay the highest line rental on the entire planet but it entitles us to nothing ....not as long as we have Comreg to 'regulate' on our behalf.

Shouldnt paying the Worlds highest line rental give us the Worlds best phone lines....or am I missing something here

Sponge Bob

juliuspret wrote:

Shouldnt paying the Worlds highest line rental give us the Worlds best phone lines....or am I missing something here

You are. The highest line rental on the whole planet is in honour of ribbon development according to Comreg. The highest line rental on the planet is full compensation for any and all distance related problems in providing a service and any and all cost issues too .

Therefore the highest line rental on the planet should give us exactly THE SAME SERVICE AS ANYBODY ELSE , no better and no worse .

But no

clohamon

Sponge Bob wrote:

Comreg are setting the USO in stone until end June 2010 so they will not be making eircom supply copper or an adequate copper substitute like fibre or wireless , no siRREEEEEEe .

If your line if crap now please wait 4 more years before annoying Comreg about it as we have decided its not our job to ensure that Irish people get phone lines with Functional Internet Access . Thanks. Piss off.

http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/ComReg0629.pdf

Its official

A recap of the consultation document will explain all.

It starts well enough

P13 "This consultation extends an invitation to all undertakings to put themselves forward to provide all or part of the universal services."

but then there's this

P15 "In the absence of compelling evidence which suggests that the contrary should be the case (including any expressions of interest from other operators) ComReg is of the preliminary view that the principal factors that resulted in eircom being designated as the USP in July 2003, remain present in 2006. As a consequence eircom is likely to be again designated as the USP with respect to the provision of access at a fixed location."

and this

P19 "In the absence of compelling evidence which suggests that the contrary should be the case (including any expressions of interest from other operators) ComReg is of the preliminary view that the principal factors that resulted in eircom being designated as the USP in July, 2003 remain present in 2006 and that as a consequence eircom is likely to be again designated as the USP with respect to the provision of the printed telephone directory or of the directory enquiry service or both."

and this

P21"In the absence of compelling evidence which suggests that the contrary should be the case (including any expressions of interest from other operators) ComReg is of the preliminary view that the principal factors that resulted in eircom being designated as the USP in July, 2003 remain present in 2006 and that as a consequence eircom is likely to be again designated as the USP with respect to the provision of Public Pay Telephones. "


The wonder is that anyone bothered making a submission.

Sponge Bob

clohamon wrote:

clohamon wrote:

In the absence of compelling evidence

clohamon wrote:

In the absence of compelling evidence

clohamon wrote:

In the absence of compelling evidence

clohamon wrote:

The wonder is that anyone bothered making a submission.

Irelandoffline has been banging away at Comreg about this for years. Comreg have been told by eircom that eircom won't do it and that they can't make eircom do it (nyahhh boo) so Comreg themselves dilute the regulations into something useless and meaningless and unenforceable but so VERY Comreg.

Read The 2003 position, it never changed since.

http://www.ccooke.org/irelandoffline/USOComReg.pdf

and

http://www.ccooke.org/irelandoffline/USOComReg2.pdf

The first of these sets out a clear standard for functional internet access. It is what a reasonable person might call "compelling evidence" because it takes the laws of physics and the intent of the EU directive into account.

Comreg responded to those documents by dropping the data requirement for telephone lines from 2.4k (uintil 2003) to 0k thereafter. They then changed their minds and came up with some codswallop about 28.8k ...but not until 2012 and then maybe.

But because Comreg does not regulate for or care for the citizen/consumer they do not consider this to be "Compelling Evidence" and the fact that there is an EU directive that requires every line in Ireland to support "Functional Internet Access" is not "Compelling Evidence" in the la la land that is the Comreg Regulatory Environment.

Thats part why they are an utter failure and should simply be abolished . This country does not have aregulator , it has an ingrained culture of failure.

Hand it all over to Brussels .