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P45

  • 04-07-2006 7:54pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭


    Hi there,

    Looking for advice,,,,,,,,,started working for a company last year.......a lot of people warned me about this particular company.. But at the end of the day the money was good.... I probably lasted about 6 months before deciding I had enough.

    Got on well with the management until I handed in my resignation,,,,,,,this was over 6 weeks ago and after numerous emails and phone calls they still have not sent me out my P45.....

    They have done this to a few ex staff members in the past. But did not think this would happen to me.

    What are my options?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Ring the Tax Office. Tell them your ex-employer is witholding your P45. You'll receive it pretty quickly after that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    I'll second what seamus says. The Revenue generally aren't too happy when employers delay P45's and will get onto your ex-employer quite quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭gerrycollins


    seamus wrote:
    Ring the Tax Office. Tell them your ex-employer is witholding your P45. You'll receive it pretty quickly after that.
    not really my brother had similar problems and tax office did feck all for him after numerous calls we ended up pestering them day after day after day and legal letters eventually worked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    not really my brother had similar problems and tax office did feck all for him after numerous calls we ended up pestering them day after day after day and legal letters eventually worked
    Generally the tax office will contact them and the employer will back down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


    Im in the same boat at the moment.

    I left my last place in March and by the start of June, still had not received my P45.
    Emailed the company on 4th of June asking for the P45.
    26th June - Still no P45 and once again still on emergency tax for this months pay.

    Emailed them again this day last week. Got an email back the next day - another copy has been sent out 27th June.

    Today - Still no P45. Fair enough one copy gets lost in the post, it happens. But two? And it took me getting onto them after 3 months to get them to send one out.

    And i need to have this handed in by the 14th or im stuck on emergency tax for another month.
    Im getting fairly annoyed at this stage, i got my payslip a few days ago and the amount being taken off in tax is unreal.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    The law should be no p45 within 7 days of leaving will result in a €1000 fine for the first offence and €5000 for subsequent offences. That would sort them out. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 my little pony


    Lexus1976 wrote:
    Hi there,

    Looking for advice,,,,,,,,,started working for a company last year.......a lot of people warned me about this particular company.. But at the end of the day the money was good.... I probably lasted about 6 months before deciding I had enough.

    Got on well with the management until I handed in my resignation,,,,,,,this was over 6 weeks ago and after numerous emails and phone calls they still have not sent me out my P45.....

    They have done this to a few ex staff members in the past. But did not think this would happen to me.


    What are my options?


    this happened to me a couple of years ago just before christmas and I ended up paying emergency tax for 6 weeks, as you can imagine I was not happy.

    My new employer kept asking me for it and I kept asking the old employer for it , in the end my new boss got on the phone rang the tax office complained them for witholding it and then rang my old boss and told him what she had reported him and if she didn't have my P45 on her desk in 24 hours that she would send a solicitors letter...(it was a big company so no problem doing it)

    It worked, she had it within 2 hours. :D
    You should ring and report them, its a start and at least you will feel like you are doing something!! Good Luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Lexus1976


    What dept in the tax office did you speak too and were can I get their number. Was on to the tax office today... and was transferred about 6 times.

    Nobody seemed to know which dept or number dealt with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭rcs


    I'm in the same boat... Over 6 weeks since I left and the F***'ers still haven't given me my P45.. Not Happy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Lexus1976


    Funny thing is, i would'nt be surprised if we were all talking about the same company lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭rcs


    Yeah, I'd imagine we are.. 3 letters!!

    Anyway mine arrived in the post when I got home from work this evening... over 6 weeks late.. but at least it's here!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


    Still no sign of mine in todays post.
    I'll be getting onto the tax office tomorrow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Lexus1976


    Just on to the tax office again today...

    Still no joy! Not its not a 3 letter name..

    Financial co.... might report them to ifsra


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭kluivert


    Have you got your last pay slip fromyour previous employers.

    1. Give this to your new employers, it should have details of your total pay to date with them and your total tax (paye) to date with them.

    2. Second ring your tax office for your tax credit and standard cut off.

    3. WIth this info, get your new employers to fill in a form 12a for you with a letter stating that the previous employers are withholding your P45.

    4. Revenue will issue a new tax deduction card for yoru new employers.

    There is always more than one way to do this when it comes to tax, or simple ring the tax offce (your local district) and ask for the above info tell them that you have a new employer and to send out a tax deduction card to them.

    Otherwise if it was me I would land up at the old employers office and wouldnt leave till i got it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


    I contacted the tax office.

    They must have gotten onto them because a few hours later i had a very snotty voice mail message from ex employer on my phone.
    They claim to have sent out no less than three different copies of my P45. I don't believe this for one second as there is no way that all three copies got lost in the post.
    Apparently they are posting another copy today.
    I don't know what im going to do if this doesn't arrive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 gillmc


    in the event of not receiving p45 from a previous employer and paying emergency tax with new employer how do u go about claiming this emergency tax back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    gillmc wrote:
    in the event of not receiving p45 from a previous employer and paying emergency tax with new employer how do u go about claiming this emergency tax back.
    Your existing employer should pay back the emergency tax incrementally into your remaining pay packets.

    If you leave before it's all paid back, or it's not paid back by the end of the year, then you take your P60 (which you receive in Jan/Feb) to the tax office and reclaim your tax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Madge


    Metacortex wrote:
    I contacted the tax office.

    They must have gotten onto them because a few hours later i had a very snotty voice mail message from ex employer on my phone.
    They claim to have sent out no less than three different copies of my P45. I don't believe this for one second as there is no way that all three copies got lost in the post.
    Apparently they are posting another copy today.
    I don't know what im going to do if this doesn't arrive.

    Are you sure they are sending it to the right address?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    seamus wrote:
    Your existing employer should pay back the emergency tax incrementally into your remaining pay packets.
    Are you 100% sure about this. It's a few years since I've gotten stuck on emergency tax but once it was sorted out I definitely got an automatic rebate in my next pay packet. Perhaps this has changed but I thought it hadn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭Metacortex


    Madge wrote:
    Are you sure they are sending it to the right address?!

    Definitely. They quoted the address to me on the phone. Personally i think they're dragging their heels and its getting very annoying


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Are you 100% sure about this. It's a few years since I've gotten stuck on emergency tax but once it was sorted out I definitely got an automatic rebate in my next pay packet. Perhaps this has changed but I thought it hadn't.
    It depends on how much emergency tax you've paid.

    Basically, your employer should "pad out" your next pay packets with emergency tax. People who are working part-time, or well under the tax brackets can get a lump sum up front.

    Imagine I'm earning €2000 a month, and paying €200 tax (for the sake of argument). I've already paid €600 in emergency tax. My employer is supposed to treat the emergency tax as tax relief, up to a maximum of how much I'm being paid: that is, it would take three months for my employer to refund my tax to me, they're not supposed to refund it in one block.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    routes I would take,

    1) Fakes solicitors letter
    2) Ring up and pretend to be the tax office askinfg where the P45 is.
    3) Harass the company on a daily basis every 20-30 minutes until that P45 is delivered via courier to your doorstep.
    4) Do no 3 except call down to the company sit in reception until it's handed to you, if they won't give it start a big fuss.

    Trust me they will be happy to get rid of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    Are you 100% sure about this. It's a few years since I've gotten stuck on emergency tax but once it was sorted out I definitely got an automatic rebate in my next pay packet. Perhaps this has changed but I thought it hadn't.

    It depends on your employer. Some of them will do this automatically, others won't want to know, even if it was their fault and will leave you to deal with the tax office yourself. Problem there is that this can take ages, I sent my P60 and payslips to tax office in April and am still waiting for money back from tax overpaid last December because my new employer didn't put in the info from my P45 and I got stung. Have got onto tax office twice but very snotty answer is usually "we are dealing with correspondance from March etc right now".


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