Fitz 100FO hand

5starpool

This hand happened at the second last table of the Monday 100 freeze out in the Fitz. Before the break I had been very active, getting good cards, but also playing and winning with a variety of other hands. I took a knock in the last hand before the break but still had 12.5k at the break.

When this hand came around we were about 15 minutes since the break of the 3rd table (I had not moved). I had won 1 small hand since the break and barely played any, and I had about 11.5k before this hand. This was a table with several good experienced players on it.

Blinds are 300-600, I am in the cutoff. 1 limper (likes limping, around 14k, can be tricky). I raise to 1900 with KQo. Folded to limper who flat calls. He doesn't play many tournaments lately, but is regularly around the Fitz (usually playing mythical) so he is an experienced player, and aggressive also in general.

Flop (4700) comes JT2r. Checked to me, I bet 2500, limper immediately goes all in and has me covered, so my last ~7k to call. Getting around 2-1 on your chips what do you do?

My immediate thoughts before I maed myt decision were that I should have raised more preflop, and then this would have allowed me to bet more on the turn. Opinions on how this was played, and opinions on what next action based on actual events welcome.

Hectorjelly

call, raise more preflop as you want him to fold.

fuzzbox

Its an easy call getting 2:1.
Ur straight has those odds. And you have overcards too (which might be good).

eoghan104

In my opinion the bet on the flop was reeking of a continuation bet and maybe he sensed weakness and moved in with a draw or maybe tpgk...... I don't think your getting the odds to call unless you think the overcards are live outs?

Norwich Fan Rob

your bet of 2500 into a 4700 pot on the flop looks weak.
its kinda asking for someone to come over the top, and it looks like u have left 7k , so u can get away from it.

I might make it 2500 pre flop, just because there was a limper.
On the flop, i either commit to it, or take a free card (if as u say he is tricky), theres a lot of nice cards that can come for us on the turn.
I dont like the bet of 2500 on the flop, we have at least 8 outs, possibly as many as 14, given your weak lead, your general tight image, and the fact he has u covered, he can easily do this (come over the top) with a hand like 88 etc, (although also JT). He must think he has a lot of FE in this case.

Getting 2/1, with 7k left, given the steep payout structure in the fitz (and the fact u might even be fav vs the likes of AJ (13 outs), i call his push here.

Gholimoli

As you know I was there and I know what happened.
There is a huge difference I think when your opening a pot by entering it and by entering a pot that has already been opened.
I think a raise here in your part was a mistake for a few reasons.
Your hand cannot stand much pressure. You have been active so the chances of some 1 making a stand against you increase which is often a big reraise all in which is not welcome by your hand.
I would rather make your raise with a hand that has much less calling value than KQ in your position.
By calling value I mean a hand that can be profitable by just calling the blinds.
I would rather to raise here with something like J9 than KQ .
Im often guilty of this my self but I have started not to raise with such hands and its been rather good.
Post flop while I can certainly understand the semi-bluff raise I would again rather either moving in or checking behind. You have a massive draw and your being offered a free shot and getting there .with deeper stacks I would go for semi bluff but at this level I think checking behind and as a second option moving in.

eoghan104

What happened in the end Dom?

5starpool

Yep, I knew straight away I played it badly preflop mainly. I see your point too Gholi about not raising with these type of easily dominiated hands, and in general I don't (J9 is fav fav bad hand by the way). I had also been very inactive since the break, playing very few hands so I doubt my current image was too loose, or indeed really mattered since I have played against most of these players a good few times. The situation seemed to be right for me to raise to be honest especially as played had slowed down a wee bit. I figured though that hopefully one of my cards would be live as well as the straight draw - I put him on KJ/QJ, so I called with I hoped 11 outs.

He turned over the worst possible hand for me, a very sneakily and dangerously played AA, so I only had 6 outs. I would have preferred it if he had JJ. I hit my K to no consequence and went out.

Ah well.