3/6 cash hand...

Gholimoli

stacks:
me 600
villain 650

villain is a decent player I thought but im having second thoughts about him.he is limping UTG a lot.and some of his plays on the table have been questionable. now the line up is very weak so he may think he wants to get involved pots cheaply and take them that way .anyway he is not a donkey.

Hand:
Villain limps again from UTG, folded to me on the SB and I make it 26 with AJo.
BB folds.villan calls.

Flop(58)
8 8 J

I check,villain checks behind.

Turn(58)
As putting a spade flush draw on board.

I check,villain bets 30.
I make it 90(thoughts?) villain calls.

River (238)
3s putting spade flush there.

I check .villain bets 120.
Hero?

ianmc38

what range has he been limping UTG with? SCs, PPs 2 broadways?

fuzzbox

Why are you check/raising the turn ... been watching too much Daniel Negreanau?

You have to fold now tho. Cant really see him vb a worse Ace, the fd just got there, and there are 2 8s on board. He is not likely to bluff after he called the c/r, and he should check behind all hands that you beat really.

Goodluck2me

fuzzbox wrote:

Why are you check/raising the turn ... been watching too much Daniel Negreanau?

You have to fold now tho. Cant really see him vb a worse Ace, the fd just got there, and there are 2 8s on board. He is not likely to bluff after he called the c/r, and he should check behind all hands that you beat really.

You have shown weakness the whole way through the hand it plays a bit like AK or a miss when you check it to him twice and raise the turn,(the raise ont he turn looks a bit like a bluff as he checked the flop, he cant put you on a flush as you would hardly have c-r the turn. he is likely to be bluffing or played a house very well.

fuzzbox

goodluck2me wrote:

You have shown weakness the whole way through the hand it plays a bit like AK or a miss when you check it to him twice and raise the turn,(the raise ont he turn looks a bit like a bluff as he checked the flop, he cant put you on a flush as you would hardly have c-r the turn. he is likely to be bluffing or played a house very well.

What does he call the turn with, thats now a bluff?

lazlo

he probably has an eight-he caught a big flop with whatever hand he played-89, or possibly even A8. As soon as the ace fell he was happy to lead being aware that your preflop bet of 26 was a strong indication of a holding like AK,AQ etc -- when you raised he probably couldnt believe his luck and elected to flat call hoping that you would lead into him again on the river---when you don't he bets less than half the pot--he really wants a call in thi spot and you have to fold. He has a hand like 89 or 8s fullof aces.

ianmc38

I don't think he's bluffing when he calls a check raise on the turn.

Gholimoli

ianmc38 wrote:

what range has he been limping UTG with? SCs, PPs 2 broadways?

this is a good question and indeed is the reason why i c/r the turn.
he has been limping with K4,54,J9 etc and once he limps he will call a raise in position.
i have seen raise UTG with K4 as well but i havent seen him carry on in the hand with out at least TP or second pair.

Fuzz:
the reason i c/r the turn was that i had shown weaknes all through the hand.
after the A fell he i felt he would bet there with any A or even try to represent the A seen as i checked to him.
i was pretty sure he didnt have a better A .
i was willing to let the hand go if he reraised my c/r but i thought its very possible that he is on the flush draw and it would make sence him betting after the second spade fell.

Gholimoli

i folded and he showd 75s for the flush.
i stacked him 15 min later in position though with my monster T9s:D it felt good.