Cash hand

MrPillowTalk

Ive been quite aggresive in the game and have played a lot with villain who is also very aggresive and knows my game quite well, he is Arne And on tribeca.

Folded to me in cutoff, I bet to 70 with Qc9c $1950
Villain on button calls has me covered
SB and BB fold

Flop comes 9d 8c 3d

I bet out 100 (standard continuation bet for me)
villian raises to 300 he will usually have something here but he likes to try and snap off my continuation bets, I think he is unlikely to have anything that fits in to this flop and he might be raising to get a free card on the turn.
I reraise to 1100
He flat calls
Hmmmm?

Turn is a 2h
I check
He goes all in
850 to call

Your move?

Lafortezza

2300 ish in the pot? The flat call of your flop reraise is not good. He probably puts you on an overpair, so I guess he has an overpair beat. Good pot odds though.

fuzzbox

looks like a fold. Hard to see what he does this with, that you beat, other than *maybe* JT.

your 1100 on the flop is pretty steep. Does he ever call that with a worse hand?

Its hard to see him calling you with a worse hand, and then bluffinng now.

ocallagh

Your re-raise on the flop was quite large and he might be suspect.. but even taking that into account, if you are ahead of him, and he is willing to get his chips in the middle (thinking he is aheador has a good chance, 77, TJ, or Ad8d etc etc), he would have pushed to your 1100 raise on the flop. I just don't see him playing anything that you beat the way he did. Unless he made a huge mistake on the flop and hit call by mistake!

Next to consider are the odds you are getting. Once he pushes for 850, there is close to 3200 in the pot. It is costing you 850 to win 3200. If you are behind 80% (80 feels good ) of the time you only have 4/5 outs, and a lot of the time you're drawing dead... so think it's a fold.

I made a very similar play recently with K9 against an overly aggro player. The hand was incredibly similar to this one actually...:). I made a ridiculous overbet on the flop... and ended up paying off AA looking for my 5 outer...:( Think i was getting slightly better odds though.. something like 200 for a 1900 pot.

Gholimoli

i think when you made the huge over bet on the flop you were telling him that your playing for your stack and looks like he didnt mind it.
his flat call is a bit strange though,why not push the flop ?you look pot commited after your flop reraise so it would be good play if he had a strong hand.i tihink this is a fold now for odd reasons.

ianmc38

I'm unsure why he didn't push the flop here, but this looks like a fold for me.

MrPillowTalk

I called basically because I felt that I have told him Im willing to go for stacks on the flop so I think he pushes most hands that have me beat, I thought my play looked like an overplayed flush draw maybe, he knows if I had an overpair I will push the turn so maybe he thinks I will fold.

He had Qd8d a brick hit the river and he called me a fish for about two days

fuzzbox

jeez, he shoulda just shoved the flop.

El Stuntman

he called you a fish???

clearly big on self-awareness this dude....

lazlo

fuzzbox wrote:

jeez, he shoulda just shoved the flop.

yeah the flat call of 1100 is even stranger considering his holding...he really should have dumped or pushed when faced with the 1100

ianmc38

I like the flat calling of 1100. It looks like a monster.

Gholimoli

ianmc38 wrote:

I like the flat calling of 1100. It looks like a monster.

he didnt make the call based on what his hand looks like to the hero here.
he called it because of his pot equity and thats why he should have shoved on the flop giving him added FE to increase his equity.

fuzzbox

ianmc38 wrote:

I like the flat calling of 1100. It looks like a monster.

I guess hero didnt think so !!

ianmc38

Obviously not, but I like the way villain played it.

Gholi - Me + Pot Equity + FE =

MrPillowTalk

I only like the flat call by villain if I had 1400 or more back and villain has first chance to push on the turn.

As it played I dont think his line is terrible but I personally would have prefered to push or fold to my reraise.