Big Blind Special

DeLaBass

Live MTT NL Hold'em hand from midweek. Final table, 9 players, top 5 get paid.

I'm chip leader on the BB with just over 80k, blinds at 2k-4k. Average stack 30k.

One limper UTG, doesn't seem like a great player, the open limp is just poor play, I'm almost certain he's not trapping with bullets or otherwise. He has about 40k, SB folds and I check my 73o monster.

Flop 10k : J 7 3 r

I bet 6k, he calls

Turn 22k : J 7 3 9 r

I bet 12k and he calls again. At this point i'm not sure what i'm up against because of my position.

River is a blank, no flush out there but a straight is. Pot is 44k.

I...?

Can you put him on a hand?

I really wasn't too sure how to play this hand because when I raise I almost always make sure I'm have position. Would check-calling (eek!) have been a better line because of my position?

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Also I can't find the "What's the dumbest thing you've ever heard at the table" thread so i'll post this gem here too.

In the same game as above I had just been moved to a new table. Two guys are talking about one of their friends who busted out just before the break. Then a guy on my left leans to me and asks in a hushed voice.... "what do they mean by 'he busted out'?" Classic! Then about 5 minutes later the same guy is down to 2k with the blinds at 500-1k. He's on the BB, unraised pot and he has the option of raising all in for his other 1k but mucks his cards instead! :eek: I nearly fell off my chair!!

5starpool

I bet enough to ensure he is going all in to call (so around 18k I think?). If he had your 2 pair beaten then I think he would have raised on the flop/turn. Bad players tend not to get too sophisticated in this spot, especially when faced with big bets for agood proportion of your stack.

By blank on the river I presume you mean 2/4/5/6 as any other card is a scare card for helping straights or giving a higher 2 pair. If you don't believe the river helped him then you have to put him on a hand like QJ/KJ/TJ or the like.

ollyk1

18k is practically all-in for the villian. I bet 12k again and call a push.

5starpool

ollyk1 wrote:

18k is practically all-in for the villian. I bet 12k again and call a push.

why pretend there is a difference? how would you ever fold for 6k more into a 76k pot unless you seen his cards first?

bet enough to put him all in.

RoundTower

just push, he is probably "trapping" you with a Jack and won't fold.

DeLaBass

I bet 22k on the river which put him all-in. He calls me with JJ and his top set wins. WTF?! I can't believe someone would limp UTG with jacks. I know alot of people do it with AA but with jacks your looking for even more trouble because the hand is soooo vulnerable post-flop.

I think I was probably just unlucky here but how was my line? Should I be betting out with bottom two OOP as i'm really not getting much information from the villain when he just calls my flop and turn bets?

Thanks for the feedback

Lafortezza

Villain probably thought he would try to see a cheap flop and if the flop came without an A or a K he would bet big and tekkit, if the flop was AQ8 he could get away cheap enough. He was also probably planning on calling a raise preflop and seeing what the flop brought.

Since there was no raise preflop, and he hit top set on the flop, and then the BB bets every street into him the hand plays itself. He was probably correct not to raise the flop/turn since you could have had a 1 or 2 pair hand and he doesn't want to push you off it.

So preflop is marginal/bad but the rest of the hand is automatic for villain.