Making the most out of the nuts

Daithio

OK, first hand of a £300 six seater stt. Starting with 1k in chips, blinds 8-15. I normally play around with a wide range of hands during the first levels of these things as most people are only willing to play big hands, and if you can see a flop for relatively cheap you can often stack somebody who has a preflop monster.

So, I get 56 hearts utg, and decide to limp for 15. The button makes it 45, and it's folded back around to me so I flat call. Flop 234, two hearts. I decide to make a pot sized bet, as he is very unlikely to think this flop has helped me, and I think betting looks weaker than check calling/raising. So anyway, he flat calls, and there's now roughly 300 in the pot. The turn is a brick, the 9 of spades. Do you bet or check? If you bet how much do you bet? And if not how much should you bet on the river? No particular reads on this player, but in general on the first hand of a £300 sixpack if somebody is calling on the flop there they generally have some sort of hand, so I'd have him on an overpair (probably 77-JJ as he just flat called), a set (not that likely I don't think), or the nut flush draw.

Glowingmind

Daithio wrote:

OK, first hand of a £300 six seater stt. Starting with 1k in chips, blinds 8-15. I normally play around with a wide range of hands during the first levels of these things as most people are only willing to play big hands, and if you can see a flop for relatively cheap you can often stack somebody who has a preflop monster.

So, I get 56 hearts utg, and decide to limp for 15. The button makes it 45, and it's folded back around to me so I flat call. Flop 234, two hearts. I decide to make a pot sized bet, as he is very unlikely to think this flop has helped me, and I think betting looks weaker than check calling/raising. So anyway, he flat calls, and there's now roughly 300 in the pot. The turn is a brick, the 9 of spades. Do you bet or check? If you bet how much do you bet? And if not how much should you bet on the river? No particular reads on this player, but in general on the first hand of a £300 sixpack if somebody is calling on the flop there they generally have some sort of hand, so I'd have him on an overpair (probably 77-JJ as he just flat called), a set (not that likely I don't think), or the nut flush draw.

I'm inclined to bet weak here and hope for a him to shove a whole lot of chips in.

That said, i'm just after throwing away a monster chip lead in an stt by letting someone hit their flush by doing something similar.

fuzzbox

In this case, hero has a fd too. Villain most likely has an Ace (not AA cos he woulda raised the flop most likely).

I usually bet here, half pot prolly. and if the 5 doesnt hit, then maybe C/R the river.

Gholimoli

against good player always bet here.
there are just too many cards may come on the river that may stop your actions.for example if another heart falls on the river and he puts you on FD draw then your not gonna get paid.or if he him self is on a draw you may get something from him while he is chasing but you will not get anything from him when all the cards are out and he misses.

Norwich Fan Rob

i bet 1/2 - 3/4 pot on the turn, and the same on the river if its a blank (assuming he doesnt raise turn, when obviously i would try and get him all in).

Daithio

I was fairly certain that he had a medium overpair from the way the hand went, on the first hand of one of these it's not very likely that somebody will call my flop bet with A high unless he has a flush draw with it. So basically I don't think he is going to call both a bet on the turn and the river, as he should be able to figure out that he's behind over both streets. He may not even call another bet at all. Is it more likely that he'll call a turn bet here or a river bet? That's the question really, assuming he's unlikely to call both.

Lazare

Daithio, far be it for me giving you advice, but I think a weak bet on 4th st hoping he's gonna come over the top of you with 9's 10's or J's is the best option, if he calls, you can put him on a heart draw. If a heart comes off on the river, check/fold, if not, another weak bet.
The other option is checking the turn, and if the board suits, representing a missed draw on the river, but I think you'll get less value this way.