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Increase in Garda checkpoints

  • 19-06-2006 11:22pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭


    Has anyone noticed a sharp increase in Garda checkpoints lately? I have seen loads in the last month or so. They have been in the same spot in Ballyragget 3 times in the last week. Its only tax etc but they do seem to be much much busier or maybe Ballyragget has very good pickings? :D

    Just wondering if this is a nationwide trend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭numorouno


    yea. same in cork. all the new guards that came out of templemore in the last few weeks were put straight into traffic i think so could be that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,107 ✭✭✭John R


    Yep, Ive seen at lest one a week now for a while. Had the tax checked a few times and about a month ago there were several checkpoints on the roads around Dalkey one evening got stopped and licence checked at one, on the return trip they were still there so I went another way and got stuck for 10 minutes at another one. They were sticking heads in each car, presumably sniffing for eau-de-beer.

    TBH I'd prefer to be inconvenienced by that every so often then sail past them doing tax checks, much more essential police work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Check points often work in pairs, so the people who deliberately avoid the one on the main road will get a right grilling on the side road.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    What if you happen to live on the side road?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Then your drivin licence will say that, won't it. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    Victor wrote:
    Then your drivin licence will say that, won't it. :D

    No, my address on my driving license is for Cavan because when I first started my job was in rental house and was only staying for a few weeks, done my test so no point putting down a rental address so put my Cavan one.

    So your saying if I am taking a side road instead of a main one(which I do all the time to miss traffic) I should get a grilling for doing so??

    Don't think so, maybe if they spot someone making a sudden turn off before a checkpoint then yes but someone minding there own business going down a backroad should not be attacked for doing so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    Bond-007 wrote:
    Has anyone noticed a sharp increase in Garda checkpoints lately? I have seen loads in the last month or so. They have been in the same spot in Ballyragget 3 times in the last week. Its only tax etc but they do seem to be much much busier or maybe Ballyragget has very good pickings? :D

    Just wondering if this is a nationwide trend.

    yep, they are out in cork as well... this is a great thing. we complain when the lads aren't doing their jobs, so for me this is a great sign.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    yep, they are out in cork as well... this is a great thing. we complain when the lads aren't doing their jobs, so for me this is a great sign.

    A nice comment about the Garda, I nearly fell off my seat:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    Big Nelly wrote:
    A nice comment about the Garda, I nearly fell off my seat:D

    now now, a couple of bad apples doesnt constitute throwing out the whole barrel...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Bond-007 wrote:
    Has anyone noticed a sharp increase in Garda checkpoints lately? I have seen loads in the last month or so. They have been in the same spot in Ballyragget 3 times in the last week. Its only tax etc but they do seem to be much much busier or maybe Ballyragget has very good pickings? :D

    Just wondering if this is a nationwide trend.

    Have been stopped at a couple, thank God I finally got my car taxed after changing ownership. Don't think they are are all just tax checkpoints though, as a couple of them had an unmarked car and plain clothes Garda there as well - probably a tip off or something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    eoin_s wrote:
    Have been stopped at a couple, thank God I finally got my car taxed after changing ownership. Don't think they are are all just tax checkpoints though, as a couple of them had an unmarked car and plain clothes Garda there as well - probably a tip off or something.

    There were quite a few of them around Monkstown a few months ago. A cab driver told me that a few major league criminals had moved into the area, for what it's worth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    About a month ago at about 12:30 one night, I came across 3 checkpoints between Santry and Finglas, all stopping everyone and checking tax/insurance and licenses whatever was going on.

    There's a definite increase in them, as well as speedtraps lately. Wonder how long it'll be till the budget runs out though..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    It was a Garda Checkpoint weekend, this was annouced a while ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Bond - was this just before the factory in Ballyragget? They're there on a regular basis. I've seen them dipping trucks/jeeps for red diesel there too. Got stopped there twice myself when I had just got my new car -- didn't yet have a tax disc as the paperwork hadn't come back from Shannon. First time I was stopped they were grand about it. The second time they stopped me (different garda, 3 days later) I got plenty of aggro and threats, despite having the documentation from the sale of the car and stuff with me, he wasn't having any of it. Wanker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    Why should they be grilled for taking a side road? Unless a driver made a dangerous or illegal manouver to do so, there's no reason for a grilling so long as tax/insurance etc is in order and the Garda has no reason to believe the driver is DUI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Stephen wrote:
    I've seen them dipping trucks/jeeps for red diesel there too.

    Down the country we call it green diesel.

    I thought it was Customs & Excise who were responsible for monitoring this.
    I didn't know the Gardai had to look after this also.

    I'm told it's a extremly serious offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Why should they be grilled for taking a side road? Unless a driver made a dangerous or illegal manouver to do so, there's no reason for a grilling so long as tax/insurance etc is in order and the Garda has no reason to believe the driver is DUI.
    Big Nelly wrote:
    So your saying if I am taking a side road instead of a main one(which I do all the time to miss traffic) I should get a grilling for doing so??


    Victor actually said "so the people who deliberately avoid the one on the main road will get a right grilling on the side road.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 371 ✭✭Traffic


    custom and execise carry out the work but i think they need the presence of the gardai to stop vehicles

    and yes they often use the checkpoints on smaller roads in case people have been tipped off as to their presence on the main raod and people take the back road to aviod the main checkpoint
    they call them 'super checkpoints' or something

    super eh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    layke wrote:
    It was a Garda Checkpoint weekend, this was annouced a while ago.

    sounds like a new summer festival :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭numorouno


    Savman wrote:
    sounds like a new summer festival


    rotfl :D:D:D:D where do i get the "tickets" for this festival!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭5500


    Havnt noticed any increase in normal checkpoints in the west dublin area but the operation Anvil ones seem to have stepped back up again.Passed 3 of them in neilstown and clondalkin in recent days.

    Also are the guys who generally have a red bib/vest standing at the sides of the roads normally armed?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,935 Mod ✭✭✭✭Turner


    Yes they are local detectives from the local stations. Have either a handgun or an uzi.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭kikel


    Yeah, it's the summer weather alright. Got stopped 3 times in the space of an hour one night last week. My tax was out of date by 2 months. I think the weather puts them in good mood. They just had a laugh at me and waved me on. They must be human, Who couldn't smile in last weeks weather!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Seanie M


    To be honest, I can't remember the last time I have come across a Garda checkpoint... seriously... and I drive about 5 days a week. Its been over 2 years methinks. I live down in Offaly, AND 2 doors dow from the local Garda station!

    Seanie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    A few poped up around my area over the last week.
    Do they not understand that there is no DOE window disc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭vector


    Sparky-s wrote:
    ...Do they not understand that there is no DOE window disc.

    No, and they also don't understand the concept of trade plates (the green number plates that garages use)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Stephen wrote:
    Bond - was this just before the factory in Ballyragget? They're there on a regular basis. I've seen them dipping trucks/jeeps for red diesel there too. Got stopped there twice myself when I had just got my new car -- didn't yet have a tax disc as the paperwork hadn't come back from Shannon. First time I was stopped they were grand about it. The second time they stopped me (different garda, 3 days later) I got plenty of aggro and threats, despite having the documentation from the sale of the car and stuff with me, he wasn't having any of it. Wanker.
    Yep, they always seem to be there. I have established that most of them are operating out of Thurles which is a fair bit off their patch.

    Prehaps they are after the Kerry Pimpernel :D
    http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1636487&issue_id=14227
    Fugitive Kerry Pimpernel sought by hapless gardai
    "BY ANY chance, you wouldn't be the convict who escaped," a garda asked a man who was looking for somewhere to stay. The man just laughed out loud.

    The problem for the gardai is that the man was indeed the convict whom police have been seeking here and there: the elusive Kerry Pimpernel.

    And gardai are still looking for the cheeky fugitive who gave them the slip.

    Michael Harty, originally from Listowel, Co Kerry, has been on the run since breaking out of the Portlaoise courthouse through a toilet window last month.

    He was jailed in February on a number of criminal charges, including assault, criminal damage and road traffic offences and was serving a two-year sentence.

    But he decided he had had enough of his new home at Limerick Prison and absconded from the courthouse during a court appearance.

    He has been taunting gardai ever since. In an interview with 'The Kerryman' newspaper, the cheeky criminal rang up to set the record straight about a recent article it ran claiming he was visiting his wife and children in Co Tipperary, after he did a live interview on Radio Kerry in which children could be heard in the background.

    Not only would his wife no longer have him because "she didn't think she was marrying someone who'd be in and out of trouble like me", he was nowhere near Tipperary, he told the newspaper.

    But he did admit to travelling to Dublin and Co Kildare where he encountered a pair of hapless gardai who unwittingly let him slip through their fingers just days after his prison break.

    He said: "I was up in Naas where I had a few drinks and I was walking down the street when I met two gardai. I said: 'Officers where would be the best place to get a hotel room for the night?' One of them asked me where I was from and I mustn't have been thinking right because I said 'Kerry'," he told the newspaper.

    "I just started laughing and then he did too and I walked on. That was pretty hairy all right," he said.

    He refused to divulge his present whereabouts but admitted that a change of scenery outside Ireland is on the cards, noting that he has no shortage of money from "before" and his chances of being captured are slim.

    Allison Bray


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    Thurles? Jesus, that's a bit out of their way. You'd think they'd be from Castlecomer, Durrow or maybe even Abbeyleix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Stimpyone


    On and off armed checkpoints on Blunden Drive outside O'Tooles in Ayrfield recently. They are actually checking driving licences, pulling people over checking boots and looking under bonnets:eek: ( which I've never seen before ).

    Nice to see the Guards out and about but it's causing tailbacks onto the Malahide Road. ( never happy I suppose )

    Q: If they are looking for Preps. whats the point of having check points on the same road several days in a row. Surely you'd avoid the location if you were up to no good. Deniability of access maybe???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭MikeHunt


    Apparently they anticipate a lot more drink driving to be going on around World Cup time, so presumably that's part of the reason (for the increase in checkpoints).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,332 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    i came across 2 checkpoints on the N11 in wexford a couple of weeks ago. this is fair enough but they'd chosen to do them bang in the middle of a couple of long straight 100km/h sections with no advance warning signs. it was as if they were trying to cause accidents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    loyatemu wrote:
    i came across 2 checkpoints on the N11 in wexford a couple of weeks ago. this is fair enough but they'd chosen to do them bang in the middle of a couple of long straight 100km/h sections with no advance warning signs. it was as if they were trying to cause accidents.

    If it is a long straight section wouldnt you be able to see them a mile off? think your avatar says alot about your eye sight if you couldnt see them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    Just got this in my mail
    I was doing a broadband wireless install last week for a Garda from the
    Traffic Corps. While I was there, he told me that starting Saturday 1st
    July, they will launch a 30 day speeding ticket frenzy. The state
    estimates that over e250,000 will be generated in speeding tickets.
    100,000 will go to pay Garda over time.
    There will 50 Gardai on duty at all times patrolling on the following:

    M7/N7 from Naas to Portlaoise
    N4 to Mullingar from Dublin
    N6 to Athlone
    N81 to Baltinglass
    N11 to Wexford
    M50
    Dublin - Drogheda


    Their will be additional Gardai assigned to 'flying squads' - mobile
    units to patrol all other routes in Dublin, Wicklow, Kildare, Meath,
    Laois, Westmeath, Offaly, Louth and Kilkenny

    I'm warning everyone now that 5 kmph above the limit can justify a
    ticket and every Garda is supposed to pull a car over and write a ticket
    every 20 minutes.
    They have issued brand new unmarked cars. If you must take one of these
    main routes, or surrounding roads beware. It's up to you how fast you
    go. I was told Today FM confirmed all of this(off the record). So be
    safe and don't forget speeding tickets are on you. You've been warned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭andrew_ireland


    I've seen this on these forums before- if you look at it, there's a huge amount of data i.e road names, counties and all sorts of different facts and figures. Unless the author of this eMail has some amazing memory no-one could remember all that info during a casual chat...............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    I've seen this on these forums before- if you look at it, there's a huge amount of data i.e road names, counties and all sorts of different facts and figures. Unless the author of this eMail has some amazing memory no-one could remember all that info during a casual chat...............

    Havent a clue myself but said I would post!! not putting up name who I got it off but original mail came form some guy in Nationallighting.ie


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    I've seen this on these forums before- if you look at it, there's a huge amount of data i.e road names, counties and all sorts of different facts and figures. Unless the author of this eMail has some amazing memory no-one could remember all that info during a casual chat...............

    i concur... smells of s#it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Big Nelly wrote:
    Havent a clue myself but said I would post!! not putting up name who I got it off but original mail came form some guy in Nationallighting.ie

    oh! well they'd know :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Someone over on After Hours posted this reference from Snopes.com ...

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/speeding.asp

    Look familiar? :) Complete bullsh!t, as expected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    Savman wrote:
    oh! well they'd know :rolleyes:

    oh
    looks like we do,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    They're still in the midst of a massive operation to try crack down on organised crime, particularly with the recent spate of shootings.

    Stopped at a checkpoint in Lucan last night, and a special branch mate happened to be there. Was chatting to him briefly before they got a call and had leg it :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    That mail could be sent out by themselves as a sort of propoganda stunt to make people believe it will happen while they'll actually be off drinking tea and hiding from the baddies etc.

    Otherwise it is proof of my theory that the speed camera lark is nothing other than a revenue generating device designed speciffically to target the already way over taxed motoring public of Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    A garda checkpoint was setup at Jack Whites Cross last weekend, as my dad was saying.
    He told me it looked like a routine tax stop, untill he seen a speeding megane coming towards the checkpoint. His initial reaction was that it was a speeder who was going to try and get past the checkpoint as he was driving down the hard shoulder towards them.
    But as it would at that speed, the car screeched on the brakes, causing some dust in the air, and low and behold, the guys in the red garda jackets get out of the car, go to the boot and take out the guns.
    I dont know, nor does my dad know, but he either thinks they were showing off by speeding like that or expecting someone or something to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭\m/_(>_<)_\m/


    Sparky-s wrote:
    A garda checkpoint was setup at Jack Whites Cross last weekend, as my dad was saying.
    He told me it looked like a routine tax stop, untill he seen a speeding megane coming towards the checkpoint. His initial reaction was that it was a speeder who was going to try and get past the checkpoint as he was driving down the hard shoulder towards them.
    But as it would at that speed, the car screeched on the brakes, causing some dust in the air, and low and behold, the guys in the red garda jackets get out of the car, go to the boot and take out the guns.
    I dont know, nor does my dad know, but he either thinks they were showing off by speeding like that or expecting someone or something to happen.

    wouldn't ya love to throw them into a real situation, to see how they react.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    I was stopped at a large one on parnell square on saturday night, as it turned out they were looking for info on the murder in O'connell street the previous week.Problem was they filled out a large form with all my details, everything, car details, address, dob? and then asked me was I working between 2 and 4 last saturday.I wasn't, ah drive on so, he says.If he had asked me that at the beginning the tailback behind me wouldn't have been so long. I have no problem with been stopped, it just seems to me that the guards put very little thought into where they have their checkpoints,in regards to Dublin anyway.Productivity doesn't seem to be a prority with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    wouldn't ya love to throw them into a real situation, to see how they react.
    Lots of gardai could be hurt in such circumstances. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    Victor wrote:
    Lots of gardai could be hurt in such circumstances. :D

    And if they dont end up shooting you or one of the public, it's themselfs. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭junkyard


    Sparky-s wrote:
    A garda checkpoint was setup at Jack Whites Cross last weekend, as my dad was saying.
    He told me it looked like a routine tax stop, untill he seen a speeding megane coming towards the checkpoint. His initial reaction was that it was a speeder who was going to try and get past the checkpoint as he was driving down the hard shoulder towards them.
    But as it would at that speed, the car screeched on the brakes, causing some dust in the air, and low and behold, the guys in the red garda jackets get out of the car, go to the boot and take out the guns.
    I dont know, nor does my dad know, but he either thinks they were showing off by speeding like that or expecting someone or something to happen.

    They were probably just after watching the "Professionals" or something on the tv.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Prehaps it was an urgent donut delivery?


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