Number 10 Bus

DerekP11

How about moving the number 10 bus terminus from Infirmary Road to Heuston Station?

Since the redevolpment of Heuston there is now ample space out front for additional bus services and terminating the 10 gives heuston passengers a chance of gaining access to a different part of the city and the Mater and Temple street hospitals.

Its a small move that could bring big benefits.

shltter

The Zoo would not like it

DerekP11

The Zoo wouldn't be affected. The stop on Infirmary Road would obviously be retained as would the overall route apart from the extension to Heuston.

Come to think of it, S***w the Zoo. Its not a focal point within integrating public transport in Dublin.

Chris_533976

DerekP11 wrote:

S***w

out of interest, what was that word supposed to be? I havent heard a swear word like that before

Stark

I would have thought screw, but that isn't a censored word.

MiniD

The 10 has to be one of the busiest routes in the city, so I would be against extending it any further unless the frequency increased. There could also be a problem with the bus getting to Heuston from Parkgate Street as there is no right turn over the bridge to Heuston.

enterprise

DerekP11 wrote:

How about moving the number 10 bus terminus from Infirmary Road to Heuston Station?

Since the redevolpment of Heuston there is now ample space out front for additional bus services and terminating the 10 gives heuston passengers a chance of gaining access to a different part of the city and the Mater and Temple street hospitals.

Its a small move that could bring big benefits.

A good idea from P11? What has happened?

John R

MiniD wrote:

The 10 has to be one of the busiest routes in the city, so I would be against extending it any further unless the frequency increased. There could also be a problem with the bus getting to Heuston from Parkgate Street as there is no right turn over the bridge to Heuston.

It would be adding passengers to the outer end of the route where there is unused capacity. Extending the route would require at least one or two extra buses just to cover the current frequency, at the moment there just isn't any spare capacity to allow this.

It could always use the Luas bridge to access Heuston, a set of bus activated turning lights would allow a right turn with minimum disruption. I am sure the RPA would throw a wobbly at the idea though.

Ham'nd'egger

For a bus to go to Heuston, it will need to swing a right onto Watling Street bridge, a mere 4 traffic lanes across. Unless it runs over the Luas "Lions", or maybe has a "Zebra Crossing" to help it get there in time. And God be with anyone who doesn't know how long it can take to get from the station front to Frank Sherwin, let alone over the Parkgate Street, never mind where to hold onto the buses awaiting departure. This brainwave will easily put 30 minutes onto a 10 return journey at rush hour, a real "monkey" spanner of an idea.

popebenny16

I agree with the last poster. This is a real loon of an idea. Imagine the poor sods in Heuston having to endure a long crappy trek up the NCR, Phibsboro and then the free flowing central transport artery that is O'Connell Street. Yeah, that'll work. BTW, how will the buses get out of Heuston and back to Infirmary road.

And Btw btw, Dublin Zoo is only the number one tourist attraction in the city, so its not llike no-one uses it.

wwhyte

popebenny16 wrote:

I agree with the last poster. This is a real loon of an idea. Imagine the poor sods in Heuston having to endure a long crappy trek up the NCR, Phibsboro and then the free flowing central transport artery that is O'Connell Street. Yeah, that'll work.

Well, it's not like the OP suggested extending the 10 to Heuston and abolishing the Luas. There'll be plenty of ways to do existing trips, the interesting thing is how this enables new trips.

Speaking as someone who lives in Phibsboro, this seems like a great idea. Take the 10 down Infirmary Rd and round to Parkgate St and terminate at the Ashling -- easy stroll to Heuston and the right turn at the start of the return journey can be coordinated with the Luas signals. It creates a straight shot to Heuston from Phibsboro and Cabra, which should both be natural journeys, and it gives people on the Ballymun/Finglas corridor one change to the station.

popebenny16

well thats not what the op wanted, he wants the 10 to stop where the 90 stops.

wwhyte

popebenny16 wrote:

well thats not what the op wanted, he wants the 10 to stop where the 90 stops.

Fair enough, and there are problems with that idea. But it seems like taking the 10 round to the Ashling avoids most of the problems and preserves most of the benefits.

Ham'nd'egger

wwhyte wrote:

Fair enough, and there are problems with that idea. But it seems like taking the 10 round to the Ashling avoids most of the problems and preserves most of the benefits.

There are problems, like the small matter of the Luas taking up the road in front of the Ashling, one way systems, nowhere to lay buses over, the fact that buses by the busload (pun intended) serve the station as indeed does the Luas and the fact that the 10 still won't serve Heuston in any case if it is moved down.

Besides, what fun will a bus fully laded have trying to climb up Infirmary Road stopping only to gasp opposite a gaggle of kids wanting home from the Zoo?

I'll get the jump leads now....

Victor

popebenny16 wrote:

BTW, how will the buses get out of Heuston and back to Infirmary road.

Over the proposed bridge from the Royal Hospital to the Phoenix Park.

DerekP11

popebenny16 wrote:

well thats not what the op wanted, he wants the 10 to stop where the 90 stops.

Eh less of the "op" please. Yea I want the 10 to stop where the 90 stops. Afterall, there's not many of them left these days.

So listen here Popey, anymore talk of it being a "loon" of an idea and I'll have to send the P11 hit squad around to your gaff. We know where you live.:D

But in all seriousness, connecting the 10 to Heuston is not about taking people from the station to O'Connell street. Its about creating new destinations and interchanges with other bus services on the northside.

Its less than a mile of a gap that can be filled for christs sake. We talk about integration of public transport. Here's a small example staring at us.

GerardKeating

popebenny16 wrote:

I agree with the last poster. This is a real loon of an idea. Imagine the poor sods in Heuston having to endure a long crappy trek up the NCR, Phibsboro and then the free flowing central transport artery that is O'Connell Street.

Every thing is not about a link to O'Connell Street, the change would give the Phibsboro, NCR area better access to Heuston and the Luas.

popebenny16 wrote:

Dublin Zoo is only the number one tourist attraction in the city, so its not llike no-one uses it.

The Zoo is less than a mile from Hueston, another wild idea might be a short extension to the red line to the zoo, cost maybe five million, and a dedicated tram making a shuttle from Connolly to the Zoo and back. It would also help in the mornings for those on the Quays with trip into town, i imagine most/many of the trams from Tallaght are full long before the reach Hueston.

Ham'nd'egger

GerardKeating wrote:

Every thing is not about a link to O'Connell Street, the change would give the Phibsboro, NCR area better access to Heuston and the Luas.

Not to mention making it easier for the Giraffes in Dublin Zoo to head off to spend the summer with Lord Altamount in Westport House Zoo :rolleyes:

enterprise

DerekP11 wrote:

Eh less of the "op" please. Yea I want the 10 to stop where the 90 stops. Afterall, there's not many of them left these days.

So listen here Popey, anymore talk of it being a "loon" of an idea and I'll have to send the P11 hit squad around to your gaff. We know where you live.:D

Behave