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  • 16-06-2006 12:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭


    jury service??

    I've been called in for it in a couple of weeks. I wrote a letter stating i was going away the end of july and provided proof but they're still telling me i gotta go??? It's just wasting everybodys time i wouldve assumed because they said in the letter if i do get called to explain to the judge my difficulties of a lenghty trial with my commitments. Is it possible the judge could dismiss my claim and i could miss my (fully paid) holiday over this? The missus will feckin divorce me:D
    anybody ever been in a similar situation?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    explain your situation, if they still tell you you must go, fu(k them, dont turn up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Oobie


    I've been called twice. Did it once and the second time I got a letter from work saying I couldn't go. Try calling them to explain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭Donegal Lass


    you only get fined like €65 or something as far as i kno, compare that to price of cancelling the holiday.........think you have your answer?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭daymobrew


    Dun laoire wrote:
    Is it possible the judge could dismiss my claim and i could miss my (fully paid) holiday over this?
    Highly unlikely. I was called and saw a few people state that there were going on holidays as they were called onto an actual jury. Bring the proof, just in case.

    The process:
    The way it worked was that the judge describes the case so that people who might know the parties can excuse themselves (if called to be on that case's jury). The judge will also give an estimate of how long the case will last.
    Then a bunch of names are drawn out of a hat and they head toward the jury box. The barristers can object before a juror is sworn in. If the barristers remain silent, the juror then tells the judge of any issues (know the parties involved, going away etc) and he tells the person to step down. Otherwise the person is sworn in.

    So, go along to the courthouse (though at least 50% on the called list didn't!). You may not be called for a jury and have an 'out' if you are.
    It is an offence to not turn up (though only e65 as mentioned). To be honest, I highly doubt that anything happened to those that didn't turn up :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Dun laoire


    daymobrew wrote:
    Highly unlikely. I was called and saw a few people state that there were going on holidays as they were called onto an actual jury. Bring the proof, just in case.

    The process:
    The way it worked was that the judge describes the case so that people who might know the parties can excuse themselves (if called to be on that case's jury). The judge will also give an estimate of how long the case will last.
    Then a bunch of names are drawn out of a hat and they head toward the jury box. The barristers can object before a juror is sworn in. If the barristers remain silent, the juror then tells the judge of any issues (know the parties involved, going away etc) and he tells the person to step down. Otherwise the person is sworn in.

    So, go along to the courthouse (though at least 50% on the called list didn't!). You may not be called for a jury and have an 'out' if you are.
    It is an offence to not turn up (though only e65 as mentioned). To be honest, I highly doubt that anything happened to those that didn't turn up :(

    Thanks daymo, some useful info there. I'm just bemused as to why they'd waste my time and their time making me go when they know i'm going away. Thats why i got a little concerened and wondered could my claim be dismissed by the judge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Just don't do it. I was called before and simple replied saying I was going to be away. No details or dates. Nothing ever came of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,092 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Dun laoire wrote:
    jury service??

    I've been called in for it in a couple of weeks. I wrote a letter stating i was going away the end of july and provided proof but they're still telling me i gotta go??? It's just wasting everybodys time i wouldve assumed because they said in the letter if i do get called to explain to the judge my difficulties of a lenghty trial with my commitments. Is it possible the judge could dismiss my claim and i could miss my (fully paid) holiday over this? The missus will feckin divorce me:D
    anybody ever been in a similar situation?

    So, you have to attend for jury duty at the end of June. For two weeks or one? You are going on holiday at the end of July. Vast majority of cases (if you are selected for jury duty) take a day or so. Chances of being selected for a jury on a case that is going to run until the end of July are infinitesmal. Where is your problem?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭judybaby


    I was called for Jury service in December and on the day I wasn't picked however some people that were picked told the judge on the day that they had committments etc and as a result didn't have to do it. It is important that you turn up however ...as I'm sure the fine is more than 65 squid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    "the trick is to say you're prejudice against all races"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭judybaby


    Cremo wrote:
    "the trick is to say you're prejudice against all races"


    hee hee ....lmao:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 791 ✭✭✭fightin irish


    I got called once and simply wrote a letter stating i've just got moved to a new job within the company and can i postpone. There was no problem and nearly 12 months later they called me again. Now that was about six years ago, I don't know if things have changed since.

    BTW a couple of people never turned up all week and were served fines to the region of 250 old pounds(i could be wrong on the amount) The judge only issued this order on the last day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭dubtom


    I dont know if this true but apparently a letter from your doctor saying you suffer with your nerves will get you off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    I was called there earlier this year. Being in college I was able to get a letter from DCU stating I was in full time education and was excempt

    ^_^

    And the fine is a lot more then 65 quid. I think its more in the region of 250 or 300 or so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    wish i would get called


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,687 ✭✭✭Dun laoire


    esel wrote:
    So, you have to attend for jury duty at the end of June. For two weeks or one? You are going on holiday at the end of July. Vast majority of cases (if you are selected for jury duty) take a day or so. Chances of being selected for a jury on a case that is going to run until the end of July are infinitesmal. Where is your problem?

    Look you moron, i've never been selected for jury service before so i don't know how long it could last. What do you mean "two weeks or one"? It doesnt say how long i have to attend for!!! Keep your poxy attitude to yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,092 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Dun laoire wrote:
    Look you moron, i've never been selected for jury service before so i don't know how long it could last. What do you mean "two weeks or one"? It doesnt say how long i have to attend for!!! Keep your poxy attitude to yourself.

    Reported for personal abuse. You get a no-jury trial for that.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Dun laoire wrote:
    Look you moron, i've never been selected for jury service before so i don't know how long it could last. What do you mean "two weeks or one"? It doesnt say how long i have to attend for!!! Keep your poxy attitude to yourself.

    Settle down.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Which court is the jury service in? If its high court and u dont turn up its taken very seriously n the fine is alot more than 65e. ring them and sort it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    http://oasis.gov.ie/justice/jury_service/jury_service.html
    Rules

    You must reply to the jury summons by using the form and pre-paid envelope provided. If you come within the categories of persons excusable from jury service as of right, you must state that fact on the form provided.

    If you wish to be excused for another reason (such as illness), you must state that reason and the County Registrar will make a decision as to whether or not you may be excused.
    Rates

    There is no payment for jury service. Travelling expenses are not allowed. If you are actually serving as a juror, lunch will be provided on the day or days that the trial is at hearing.

    If you are self-employed and work alone and where your attendance at jury service may mean you cannot earn a living, you may qualify for excusal from jury service. Contact the jury office of the Court for more information.

    If you are in employment, the Juries Act 1976 (Section 29) places a duty on your employer to allow you attend for jury service. It is further specified in the law that time spent on jury service is to be treated as if the employee were actually employed. In other words, if you are in employment and are attending for jury service, you are entitled to be paid while you are away from work. Anyone with a contract of employment (i.e., temporary workers, contract workers, etc.) is entitled to be paid by their employer while they are on jury service. There should also be no loss of any other employment rights while you serve on a jury. The Jury office will provide a certificate of attendance on request.

    If you feel your employment rights have been infringed or you have lost employment rights while serving on a jury, you can make a complaint to Rights Commissioner. Read more about Employment Appeals here.

    http://oasis.gov.ie/justice/jury_service/eligibility_and_selection.html

    You won't loose you holidays/annual leave your employeer will have to give those at a later date.

    Check the clauses for what ever holidays you have booked and see if your cancelation covers jury duty and if not check the travel insurance as that may cover it.

    Jury duty is a Civic duty and one of the few that we are called upon to as part of living in a democratic republic.

    The slection pools maybe very wide and you may not even get chosen.


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZA4Y1976.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,963 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭daymobrew


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    But not if the holidays are due to start after the estimated end date of the case the person is assigned.

    As I said earlier, just because you are called to jury dury doesn't mean you'll be on a jury. There are two further 'rounds' in your favour (for getting off): 1) names go into a hat again and 2) the barristers might object.


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