Saw 2

berengar

Hi

I saw saw and enjoyed it apart from some really heavy scenes
and was a bit disturbed by it.
My question is a simple one for those who have seen saw 2 , is it

heavier then saw 1 ?
just as heavy ?
lighter ?

Thx

Surrender

Its definately not near as good in my opinion as the first installment. I'd say saw is a bit gorier alright and although the actings a bit duff its a way better film, much more solid than the sequel. You definately should check it out

qz

berengar wrote:

some really heavy scenes

Needle pit yeah?

Necronomicon

It's more explicit than the first one I think (although the first isn't without its gore) but I didn't think it was a patch on the original.

kittenkiller

I thought it was great.
Wanted to go back & see it again as soon as I came out of the cinema!
It's heavy. Probably just as heavy but in a different way than the 1st.
The 1st was more character based & the second was more gorey & inventive I thought.

Both are great films & I can't wait for SAW3 at the end of the year!

berengar

qz wrote:

Needle pit yeah?

no i was referring to when

he sawed off his own foot

EARMUFFS

Imho i thought it lacked all the tension and cleverness of the original. Wahlberg isn't bad but the housemates were atrocious. Did enjoy the old cooking scene though.(although how he thought climbing into the kiln was a good idea in the first place leads me to nominate him for a Darwin award)

TerrorFirmer

It's a good sequel as far as sequel track records go.

Not quite AS good, feels alot cheaper, but its not without its charm and is very entertaining.

It's more visually violent; but I found not as disturbing as the first movie by any stretch and it has a completely different feel to it.

Class opening scene in Saw 2 though.....gut wrenching watching it, will he, won't he? It's a shame the rest of the scenes thereafter are not as good...

Oobie

When I saw Saw 2 I remember thinking it was better than the first. I thought the first got a bit boring at the end. The actors in the second weren't great but it was still really enjoyable.

Sam Vimes

EARMUFFS wrote:

Imho i thought it lacked all the tension and cleverness of the original. Wahlberg isn't bad but the housemates were atrocious. Did enjoy the old cooking scene though.(although how he thought climbing into the kiln was a good idea in the first place leads me to nominate him for a Darwin award)

the darwin award should go to the one who stuck BOTH her hands up into the plastic box thing with the razor sharp blade things on it. what kind of idiot gets one hand stuck and then sticks the other hand in? it reminds me of when homer got stuck in the tar pit. he tried to pull his legs out with his arms and then his arms out with his face. genius

unreg54756987

Commander Vimes wrote:

the darwin award should go to the one who stuck BOTH her hands up into the plastic box thing with the razor sharp blade things on it. what kind of idiot gets one hand stuck and then sticks the other hand in? it reminds me of when homer got stuck in the tar pit. he tried to pull his legs out with his arms and then his arms out with his face. genius

lmao, yeah, she was a bit of a genius tbh.

steveland?

Commander Vimes wrote:

the darwin award should go to the one who stuck BOTH her hands up into the plastic box thing with the razor sharp blade things on it. what kind of idiot gets one hand stuck and then sticks the other hand in? it reminds me of when homer got stuck in the tar pit. he tried to pull his legs out with his arms and then his arms out with his face. genius

Yeh not very clever but I reckin that's cos she was supposed to be a bit gone in the head since there was poison searing through her slowly killing her and wasn't exactly thinking straight...

I loved Saw 2 just as much as Saw...

Both have shockingly bad acting but they're still nicely thought out and pulled off well...

Saw 2's very different to Saw but they're just as good as each other in different ways imo

The Bollox

I have a question: are we to assume

Amanda was working for Jigsaw in the first one, that it was her wearing the pig mask?

faceman

Marts, I didnt think that, i thought it was purely a second film plot point.

i was reading today that they Saw "makers" signed up for 9 of these films. *groan*

number 3 is already in the works...

Necronomicon

Marts wrote:

I have a question: are we to assume

Amanda was working for Jigsaw in the first one, that it was her wearing the pig mask?

No.

Amanda felt her life was 'saved' by Jigsaw, he gave her a new lease on life. After her ordeal she no longer took life for granted. Unless your question is did she start working for him towards the end of the first film, which would be debatable...

kittenkiller

Marts wrote:

I have a question: are we to assume

Amanda was working for Jigsaw in the first one, that it was her wearing the pig mask?

Nah, wasn't it

the caretaker guy from the hospital

?

God I love those movies!
Gonna watch them again during the week.
Then run up the stairs to bed leaving everyone else to lock up & turn out the lights so that the bad man doesn't have a chance to get me!

Tingo

I didn't see the first one in the cinema but just a home, so there wasn't quite the same atmosphere. I saw the second one in the cinema, and it looks so much worse a big screen. :eek:

I wouldn't say it's heavier, just my perspective of it. There are a lot more torture scenes and a larger variety of characters. In a way more happens, but the plot idea is already used so you don't leave with the same feeling. It was cool the way they connected towards the end and they used the set from the first movie.

Did anyone see Scary Movie 4's take on Saw 1?

The Bollox

kittenkiller wrote:

Nah, wasn't it

the caretaker guy from the hospital

?

it can't be because

he was in Doctor Gordons house keeping an eye on the wife and daughter

pbsuxok1znja4r

Neither film had good acting. Probably the only genuinely freaky thing, between both films, was the doll on the tricycle and the head-mangling contraption/s. Any film that ends with the words

"Game Over!"

can only flatter to decieve.
But yeah, I would say there are equal amounts of gruesome-ness in either film.

The Bollox

no he wasn't. he was in the daughters wardrobe, he said something and she told her mother there was a man in there, and that she wanted her daddy. so they got Dr. Gordon off his laptop, he went upstairs and comforted her. after Gordon left the house to 'go to work' Zep came out and started the kidnap. it was after this happened that Dr. Gordon and the other lad were captured

ianmc38

I thought Saw 1 was hilarious. I nearly cried at the end I was laughing so hard. Even funnier was after the film when people started commending the clever "twist" at the end. I really hope that where they come from, clever = retarded. honestly how anyone could think it was clever is beyond me. Surprising - yes. Stupid - yes. Plausible - no. Feasible - no. Clever - lol.

Saw 2 is one of the best comedies of the modern era.

steveland?

Marts wrote:

no he wasn't. he was in the daughters wardrobe, he said something and she told her mother there was a man in there, and that she wanted her daddy. so they got Dr. Gordon off his laptop, he went upstairs and comforted her. after Gordon left the house to 'go to work' Zep came out and started the kidnap. it was after this happened that Dr. Gordon and the other lad were captured

Ya know I hadn't thought about that...

Makes sense that it would've been Amanda seeing as how her ordeal was meant to be a good while before Adam and Lawrence were captured. It's very possible it was her who kidnapped the two of them because she's only seen in the Doctor's flashbacks in the film and Zep is meant to have been capturing his wife and daughter while he was kidnapped...

It follows that maybe she had gone "over to Jigsaw's side" before the two of them were put in the room and been doing his work during the first movie too, she just wasn't seen...

I hadn't even thought about the fact that it had to be someone other than Zep doing the kidnapping...

Anyway yeh the acting in both was atrocious but the film as a whole worked for me... both just as good as each other, just completely different films and not directly comparable...

I'd say a Saw 0 is in the cards at some point...

The Bollox

steveland? wrote:

I'd say a Saw 0 is in the cards at some point...

really? I can't see any unanswered questions concerning Jigsaw, but I suppose they probably will get fed up using Amanda, realise Jigsaw worked so much better, and do a prequel

steveland?

Marts wrote:

really? I can't see any unanswered questions concerning Jigsaw, but I suppose they probably will get fed up using Amanda, realise Jigsaw worked so much better, and do a prequel

Well I'd imagine just because we only saw little short clips of what he did to others (other than Amanda, we saw all of her torture) I'd imagine there was other stuff he's supposed to have gotten up to...

I've nothing to base my guess there will be a Saw 0 on... I just wouldn't be surprised...

Matthewthebig

if there are going to be 9 movies, i wonder how long it will take to become self depricating.

like the wonderous Jason X