Fitz cash game hand

Wallko

dealt qs10s in sb,

button is super agressive but knows when to back off, mid position player is tight agressive.

as usual button makes it 7, i call as does the mid poition limper,

flop 4610 rainbow
i check
mid position player makes it 20
button calls,
i call also

turn q
i check,
mid position player checks,
button checks,:mad:

river j
i check
mid position player checks,
button pots it for about 80,
i think and fold as does the other player,

Just wondering what you think of the fold, the obvious hand the button could have is ak but not so sure after his 20 call on the flop.

played it badly on turn but really thought one of the two would bet the turn and i could put in a decent reraise (very few streets had gone check, check, check before this)

river is clearly a very bad card for me, very few hands i can bet now,

any advise much appreciated

5starpool

I call here, but then again I also pot it on the turn. I expect MP to have something like AT/KT here, and the button if he is an aggressive but clever player will take the free card as often as try to steal with nothing. I don't think it is a safe assumption to say that he has AK. He may well have, but KJ/AJ/TJ would be possibilities, all of which you are beating. Equally, or even more likely, he has nothing and after both of ye check twice he is taking a stab at the 80 that none of ye seem to want.

I don't think you palyed this too well especially since your initial intro says that the button is super aggressive.

ianmc38

Wallko wrote:

button is super agressive

Based on this and the fact that you checked the turn and river, I think this is an instacall.

Norwich Fan Rob

u showed weakness on the turn, and then checked the river, scare cards came, he can bet here with a lot of hands, no reason to put button on AK, as u said yourself, he has a wide rasing range pre flop, i call.

Ste05

I'd bet the turn here, but as played it's a definite call based on info provided. You beat lots of hands he could have here....

Gholimoli

I think you played the turn very badly as you said your self.
You should have lead on the turn with that board.
However all is not bad simply because you say button is supper agro.
Supper agro players usually bet big when they don’t have a hand and bet smaller when they want a call.
A pot-sized bet on the river really doesn’t look like he wants a caller to me specially the way the hand has been rather passively so far.
If he was value betting he would have betted less amount IMO.also if he has you beat its more likely he has K9 than AK to be honest. if he is as agro as you say he would have prob raised the flop bet here with AK.
You have induced him to make this bet on the river and when you this you have to call.

RoundTower

I think the fold on the end is terrible, he can have a lot of worse hands.

I wouldn't normally play the rest of the hand the same way (normally I would lead flop, and lead turn if button will usually give up here) but I don't think it's so bad.

Wallko

yeah i think i shud have called

A bit more information on the button, he raises a lot preflop, he takes a stab at a lot of pots on the flop, but i havnt seen him put in big bets on the turn and river without the goods, also he rarely calls bets on the flop. Usually if hes called on the flop he switches off and tries to get to a cheap showdown. if someone bets turn or river hes folding most of the time.

What really threw me was the size of the bet, despite being aggressive preflop etc, i hadnt seen him put in a bet of this size without a big hand, he liked throwing 15/20 etc at pots but hadnt seen him make a bet of this size in maybe 3 hours.

In these games i would definitely be classified as tight so i kind of felt he knew i had a good hand and wanted to extract the most from a big hand.

Definitely should have lead out on the turn but as i said i was expecting another bet from the TAG player who bet the flop

RoundTower

Actually I misread the hand first time and thought it was the button who bet the flop. In that case I like checking the turn a lot more.

On the river the button has been checked to twice, he can expect to bet and win the pot most of the time. Do you really think he would bet 20 here as a bluff? Maybe if he called the flop with AQ he would bet 20 hoping for a thin call from something like AT, but I can't see most good overagressive players betting 20 with say 78 here.

cardshark202

I would have folded preflop. QT is not the best of hands to be playing in a raised pot oop. Apart from that I would probably check-call the flop and lead the turn (seeing as its a Q). If button is prone to bluffing the river a lot I may well check-call the river though I prefer to value bet this river.