Possible to start a forum for Judaism

Velvet Vocals

Just wondering how to go about trying to start a forum for Judaism? It's not represented here and it would be interesting to know what peoples veiws on Judaism are and to discuss the jewish faith?? Mod's? Little help?:)

Rev Hellfire

Standard practise is to request one here.

But be warned its unlikely to happen, previous attempts to have one started have been rejected for various reasons. I'd suggest you search that forum before you make the request, just so you know the history of it and can put your case forward in a manner more likely to get a possitive outcome.

Dades

This was the last ill-fated attempt.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=308448&highlight=judaism

Best read the whole thing to see where you might stand.

Velvet Vocals

so I've had a read of that like you gave me. I think to say that a strong enough point hasn't been made for a jewish forum invites me to say that a strong enough point hasn't been not to have one!
I've asked my BF if he'd be interested in looking after it if they create one becase that seems to be what they're looking for and he knows far more about judaism then I do.

Until then, just in case anyone is interested in the jewish faith or finding out more about Israel check out these sites

http://www.jewfaq.org/index.htm

http://www.noach.com/

http://www.israelnationalradio.com/

Dades

Saint Something wrote:

I think to say that a strong enough point hasn't been made for a jewish forum invites me to say that a strong enough point hasn't been not to have one!

A word of advice if you try again - the Powers That Be don't consider "why not" arguments to be valid. They need to know that there are enough people on Boards to generate a reasonable amount of interest in the forum.

In their view just because there are other religions/beliefs etc catered for doesn't mean that every one should be. Otherwise there'd be a list as long as your arm.

Velvet Vocals

yea, I see what your saying. I'll pm DeVore anyway once my BF has said if he'd be up for looking after it or not. No harm in trying. There sure did seem to enough people around talk about where there should be one so I'm presuming from that there might be a few people interested in seeing one set up.

Pocari Sweat

I reckon a forum for Judaism would be a good thing.

It is one of the oldest religions that inspired zoroastrian and christian type religions.

Many of the later religions use the fundamental texts of the Jewish religion to establish a starting point and uses jewish figures as their prophets like Jesus.

Velvet Vocals

Exactly! I think I'll set up a poll and see how many responces it's gets...

Click here to cast your vote - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054945585

Nevyn

If you post a poll looking for a forum it will be scraped and most likely the thread locked.
Pming the Admins won't do it either.
Start a thread in the forum request section and show that there is a need and a community that wants the forum it how to go about it.
In the mean time feel free to start disscusions on jewish spirituality in the spirituality forum.

Gordon

Polls are pointless really. And there is no point in pming DeV to request a forum if the previous request was denied. Make a new thread on the forums forum as stated earlier. Don't include a poll.

What Thaed said.

Velvet Vocals

But how am I to gage the opinion of what people on boards want without setting up poll?
Surely I could then use that poll to either my advantage or to prove that there really isn't enough interest?
The only reason I said I'd send DeVore a pm was that is what he said to do http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...hlight=judaism

Any serious replies can approach me in PM if they are qualified (ie vaguely knowledgable more then "once read a book") and willing to look after it, I'll create it.

DeV.

I really don't understand why I'm meeting such resistance?

Gordon

Saint Something wrote:

I really don't understand why I'm meeting such resistance?

No need to get defensive.

We're just trying to tell you the best way to go about doing this. This is from previous experience of seeing forums be created on boards, and forums failing to be created.

If you stick up polls and pm the admins and say that you may have someone interested in moderating in it, maybe, and post threads outside of the forum request forum then you're not following a tried and tested system. Considering that the forum has been denied previously - you need to make sure to stick to the suggestions previously.

Fair enough about the PM to DeV though, I didn't read that post by him. However, the last post on that thread was by Cloud after DeV had written that.

Nevyn

Saint Something wrote:

But how am I to gage the opinion of what people on boards want without setting up poll?

People will post and express thier view, opinion and support.

Saint Something wrote:

I really don't understand why I'm meeting such resistance?

To the idea no, to how you are going about it yes cos you are going about it wrong.
That is not how we do things and if you don't follow proceedures and can't be arsed learning what they are then the request will not be taken seriously.

robindch

> It is one of the oldest religions that inspired zoroastrian

I believe it was the other way 'round. Zoroastrian -> Judaism, Mithraism -> Christianity -> Islam. And of course, innumerabe other related intermediate and implacable truths which weren't vigorously true enough to survive the passage of time.

Hobbes

Rev Hellfire wrote:

Standard practise is to request one here.

But be warned its unlikely to happen, previous attempts to have one started have been rejected for various reasons.

The only reason it was rejected before was because it couldn't get enough people interested in it.

Spamming numerous forums to get people to vote for your Forum you want is likely to have the reverse effect as well.

Velvet Vocals

Gordon wrote:

No need to get defensive.

I'm actually not getting defensive, I'm just amazed at the reaction I'm getting
I've been using boards for several years now and I've never experienced resistance to anything like this before, I just find it odd.

Anyway, once I hear back from my BF on weather he'll be able to look after the forum its irrelevant.

Velvet Vocals

Hobbes wrote:

The only reason it was rejected before was because it couldn't get enough people interested in it.

Spamming numerous forums to get people to vote for your Forum you want is likely to have the reverse effect as well.

G-d:rolleyes: I'm not doing to "get" people to vote, I was doing it so that people would know the poll was there and be able to vote if they would like to!!!
I didn't think of putting it in my sig until after I had posted the links.... I suppose that would have been a better idea but we all make mistakes!

Gordon

Saint Something wrote:

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I've been using boards for several years now and I've never experienced resistance to anything like this before, I just find it odd.

As I say, we're actually not resisting this, we're advising you on the best course of action for your forum request to take off. If you can't see that then you should read the posts again, seriously.

Nevyn

Saint Something wrote:

I'm actually not getting defensive, I'm just amazed at the reaction I'm getting
I've been using boards for several years now and I've never experienced resistance to anything like this before, I just find it odd.

but yet you don't know that you did was spaming or what the proceedures are ?

Saint Something wrote:

Anyway, once I hear back from my BF on weather he'll be able to look after the forum its irrelevant.

and who is this bf when he is at home and is he EVEN on boards ?
Moderatorships don't just get handed out on a whim, the person has to be a memeber of the comminty and in good standing with a knowledge base.

I do appericate your enthusasim but take a deep breath and think a little and read a little.

sceptre

Please don't make the "mistake" of spamming multiple forums for another forum (on any topic) you'd like created again - it's rather rude and will result in a banning without remorse from me.

Hobbes

There is no voting involved in Forum requests. People say why they would want or not want the forum.

I followed the previous thread on it (even said yes to it), however the simple fact was there was little to no interest in the forum being created. No other reason it hasn't been created yet.

btw, just because you suggest a forum doesn't mean that you or someone you know will get moderatorship. Just warning before any disappointments.

Gordon

Saint Something, I suggest that the poll thread you have on this forum (Christianity) forum would be better off in the forum request forum. Would you like me to move it there?

Velvet Vocals

and who is this bf when he is at home and is he EVEN on boards ?
Moderatorships don't just get handed out on a whim, the person has to be a memeber of the comminty and in good standing with a knowledge base.

I do appericate your enthusasim but take a deep breath and think a little and read a little.

I actually know that, I didn't think that he'd be just allowed to mod something when he's not a member of boards, but as he extremely knowledgeable on the Jewish faith and is a Ben Noach him self I thought he might be able to contribute to something with a view to becoming a mod at a later stage or something.
(but right now, there's nothing there for him to contribute to)
If you both go back to my op you'll see that I really was just putting the feelers out to see how to go about it and my idea was to gather all the info and check with my BF and see if he'd be interested and then send in a request... which seems reasonable I think. Then when I read so much about there not being enough interest I thought of posting a poll and as I have said in a previous post... I didn't think of putting it in my sig until after I had posted the link in the other religious forums.
I'm not so sure it's me that needs to take a breath.... although rest assured, I'll be taking one.

Velvet Vocals

Gordon wrote:

Saint Something, I suggest that the poll thread you have on this forum (Christianity) forum would be better off in the forum request forum. Would you like me to move it there?

Yes please. Thanks!:)

Gordon

OK, I'll remove the duplicate posts in the other religion fora too then. Thanks.

Velvet Vocals

Thanks.

arctic lemur

The Atheist wrote:

A word of advice if you try again - the Powers That Be don't consider "why not" arguments to be valid. They need to know that there are enough people on Boards to generate a reasonable amount of interest in the forum.

In their view just because there are other religions/beliefs etc catered for doesn't mean that every one should be. Otherwise there'd be a list as long as your arm.

So do you need a petition of interest or something?

Pocari Sweat

What's the harm in explaining to Saint Something the simple procedure of getting a Judaism forum up and running. Enough already with all the jumping through hoops, at least give it a whirl, if it doesn't work, then what's to lose.

Surely the matter of a major religion, historically before christianity and Islam, is something to put alongside the other religions already given credence on the boards, probably without as much fuss previously.