Heads up hand,winner take all MTT

willis

Jackpot freerol, winner gets entry to €100freezout every week for a year(€5.7k equivalent) Heads up, blinds 500/1000, villain very TAG and has been aggresive as have i from postion heads up. The button has rarely passed without a raise and there has been little resistance from either of us. Stacks are roughly 45k me 40k him when this hand occurs.

I raise to 4k with K5, he defends. The flop is K78 with 2hearts. He checks i bet 6k, he announces allin??He has been very TAG so far and has to have something but what? Can this ever be a bluff checkraise?maybe nutflush draw?should i pass given the stack sizes?

BTW i came 2nd, this hand has been wrecking my head all day!

Hitman Actual

There's every chance it's a semi-bluff raise with a drawing hand, but he could also be ahead with a better king. I dont like K5 here, tbh; I think you need a decent read on villain to call here.

niborm

Hi Will

Tough spot - this guy was sitting to my right all day (I'm the guy who finished 3rd to your ducks!). I saw him make this move twice during the tournament and he was drawing the first time (gutshot), and I strongly felt he was drawing the second time too, although he won this hand without showing.

My guess here is that he is drawing and you are almost tossing a coin to decide where you spend a yearful of Wednesday evenings. Lots of chips left to play with, so I probably call:D

Hard luck btw.

Hectorjelly

unless you are happy getting all in on the flop I would strongly consider checking the flop

Daithio

I think on such a draw heavy board it's a call tbh. It could very easily be a check raise bluff. The range of hands that he can have is quite big, 9T, two hearts, any 8, possibly any 7, of course a King, but I think alot of the time you will be winning here. Top pair is pretty huge HU, especially when he probably just has you on a continuation bet. Also don't you think he'd like to maybe get a little more out of you if he had a King there with a good kicker? The overbet looks quite weak IMO. Did you find out what he had?

Gholimoli

HU i would call this every time.
as Dave said the baord is full of all sort of draws so you are prob ahead at the moment.

Gholimoli

Hectorjelly wrote:

unless you are happy getting all in on the flop I would strongly consider checking the flop

i dont like this.
you have top pair end the board is full of draws.
if you check behind and another heart falls on the turn and villain bets,are we to call a bet and then another on the river just to find him with a flush?
what if a str card hits?
is the plan to go to check call mode here?
you prob will not end up all in here with that line but you villan will only bet if he fills his draws so you will loos more the times villain hits his draws and you will not gain more the time that he dosent.

Hitman Actual

Just noticed it's heads-up. Note to self: stop skim-reading posts! Ignore what I said, and do what Daithio and gholi said.

willis

I mucked and he didnt show, i took about 2 full minutes before folding, the deepish stacks led to my decision as i had over 20bbs left and a 30min clock. The more i think about it the more its a call, tbh i thought i could find better opportunities to win the game. I also had only seen him showdown 1hand all game so i didnt have any read to go on.

BTW well played Niborm, i had to push with the 44 as you were a constant bb robber!gl and ty for replies lads

RoundTower

Gholimoli wrote:

i dont like this.
you have top pair end the board is full of draws.
if you check behind and another heart falls on the turn and villain bets,are we to call a bet and then another on the river just to find him with a flush?
what if a str card hits?
is the plan to go to check call mode here?
you prob will not end up all in here with that line but you villan will only bet if he fills his draws so you will loos more the times villain hits his draws and you will not gain more the time that he dosent.

I agree with gholi here. If the villain often check raises worse hands and draws here then we can bet and get it all in if necessary. If he rarely checkraises unless he has us beaten we can bet and fold to a raise.

Hectorjelly

I disagree totally roundtower, even the worst players here are going to have a wide variety of hands, made better hands, made worse hands and drawing hands. If you have a read on him that his check raise is one of those in paticular, then there is no need to post the hand as the action is already obvious.

Gholi, this is a heads up hand - one other person saw the flop. There is no reason at all to suspect a draw.

This is a classic situation in which you should bet some times and check sometimes. There are different factors to take into account. In this hand the presence of draws is only a very small part. More importantly is that the pot is of a medium/small size, and our hand is ok. Any decent hu player is not just stacking off every time they hit top pair, so when you flop top pair no kicker in a raised pot pot control should be one of your first thoughts. Checking also gives your opponent the chance to lose chips with many hands that he would just fold the flop with. Often times youll check here, opponent will bet the turn, and the river. You call, he has Ajo. Or you call both times and he has KQ, in which case you lost pretty much the minimum.

A bet here on the flop means your opponents range gets limited to draws, better kings and very rarely some other pair, and we dont do well against that range.

Daithio

Yeah I don't mind a check here at all. I might do the same if I'd raised pre with an Ace weak kicker and flopped the ace. You manage to play it cautiously if he has you beaten, and give yourself more information over the next streets to find this out, while at the same time if you have him beaten you're giving yourself an opportunity to make more out of it.