Igor leaves Sepultura

Beekay

Taken from blabbermouth:

Drummer Igor Cavalera has officially announced his departure from SEPULTURA (as first reported by BLABBERMOUTH.NET on January 13, 2006 and subsequently denied by both the band and Igor).

In a statement released today (June 12) to the Brazilian media, Igor attributed the split to "artistic incompatibility" with his SEPULTURA bandmates — guitarist Andreas Kisser, bassist Paulo Xisto Pinto Jr. and vocalist Derrick Green.

"I believe my time in SEPULTURA has come to an end," Igor said in the statement. "I have a lot of pride in everything we have done, but I feel that the group's current formation does not meet my expectations as a musician and a person. Since my last tour with SEPULTURA, which took place in Europe in December 2004, I have sensed that my ideas were not compatible with those of the rest of the band.

"I would really like to thank all of the fans that supported me and continue supporting our music. I would also like to thank everybody that worked to make SEPULTURA the band that it had become."

Igor announced earlier in the year that he was taking a break from the group's touring activities to spend time with his second wife and their new son (who was born in January). Filling in on drums during the band's European tour with IN FLAMES was Mayorga, who played with Igor's brother Max in SOULFLY for several years in the late '90s and again in 2001-2003.

Igor is the second Cavalera it leave SEPULTURA. In 1996, Max Cavalera exited the group after the rest of the band fired Max's wife Gloria as SEPULTURA's manager.

SEPULTURA are rumored to have selected Jean Dolabella (ex-UDORA) as their new permanent drummer following Roy Mayorga's decision to join STONE SOUR as a full-time member.

Necronomicon

Noooo!
The whole 'needing a break' must have been complete bull**** so since he's cited his reason for leaving as 'music incompatibility'.

Is Roy Mayorga with Stone Sour permenantly now? If not, I think he'd be a perfectly adequete replacement.

dimerocks

I am a sad sad panda. I wish he has not bothered recording the convicted in life video and everything. I think it has completely undermined everything we have done in the sepularmy now. I am upset.
We Don't stop, We keep Fighting on!!!

Doctor J

Ahhh bummer. Bad news, bad news indeed.

Beekay

the "sepultura" should just break up now or go by a new name

Necronomicon

Beekay wrote:

the "sepultura" should just break up now or go by a new name

No member is bigger than the band :rolleyes:
Is it Napalm Death that don't have a single original member left??

ANarcho-Munk

Necromomicon wrote:

Is it Napalm Death that don't have a single original member left??

Yup, IMO their first incarnation was their best as well.

dimerocks

Beekay wrote:

the "sepultura" should just break up now or go by a new name

no they shouldn't. Simple as that, Iggor was a big part of the sound but to be honest they can replace him. Sure it is upsetting and i want him to stay but they will deal with it. I think they have become a better band since Max left why not do it again now.

Patricide

I actually heard roumers that he was joining soulfly, i thought it was all total bull**** but with sepultura now dead in my eyes and soulfly getting better and better it would be unreal.

Beekay

dimerocks wrote:

no they shouldn't. Simple as that, Iggor was a big part of the sound but to be honest they can replace him. Sure it is upsetting and i want him to stay but they will deal with it. I think they have become a better band since Max left why not do it again now.

Then just go under a different name,should be the same music and it would stop them getting so much s*it that its not the real Sepultura

dimerocks

but it is the real sepultura... i can't understand this mentallity that max was the heart of sepultura. Its been a decade since he left and in that decade every seps album has been better than the corresponding soulfly album released. Dark Ages is the only on that come close to the quality of a sepultura album. They have as much right to the name as Max or Iggor.

Patricide

Not in my opinion prophecy is also easily up there in my book, may not be as agressive but that and dark ages are just wrote better imo anyway.

senordingdong

Shame, he was quality, and un-deniably an integral part of Sepultura and the music they made. But I am intersted to see how they'll sound with a new member. The same as I'm looking forward to the new Metallica album with Rob's input.

Tar.Aldarion

Necromomicon wrote:

Is it Napalm Death that don't have a single original member left??

Haven't they had 30 or 32 members now?
I think that's them...


Oh and very bad news, he's so good.

Doctor J

Patricide wrote:

I actually heard roumers that he was joining soulfly, i thought it was all total bull**** but with sepultura now dead in my eyes and soulfly getting better and better it would be unreal.

Why would Sepultura be dead in your eyes? They've just put out one of the best albums of their careers, of any lineup. It won't sell because people are too hung up on someone who hasn't been in the band for 10 years. Listen to the music, ignore the peripheral bull**** which doesn't really matter at all. If the music is good, that is all that matters... and the music modern Sepultura are putting out is very good indeed. There's only one original member of Megadeth, two left in Metallica, two in Iron Maiden... it's not that uncommon and people still seem attached to those bands.

Necronomicon

Should they have changed their name when Andreas replaced Jairo T?

Patricide wrote:

I actually heard roumers that he was joining soulfly, i thought it was all total bull**** but with sepultura now dead in my eyes and soulfly getting better and better it would be unreal.

Really doubt it. He's been doing a load of rap/DJ stuff in Brazil, seems to be his new thing. He also said it was "Music incompatibility" that made him leave. Now I know Soulfly and Sepultura aren't the same, but at the end of the day they are both metal and if he didn't want to produce metal in Sepultura, then I couldn't see him going to Soulfly.

Gabriel

Sepultura after roots bloody roots is gone!! if you want to listen to them play arise or chaos a.d.!!! until they got together againg all of them , there is no more sepultura!!! se acabo la historia...........:cool:

Patricide

Doctor J wrote:

Why would Sepultura be dead in your eyes? They've just put out one of the best albums of their careers, of any lineup. It won't sell because people are too hung up on someone who hasn't been in the band for 10 years. Listen to the music, ignore the peripheral bull**** which doesn't really matter at all. If the music is good, that is all that matters... and the music modern Sepultura are putting out is very good indeed. There's only one original member of Megadeth, two left in Metallica, two in Iron Maiden... it's not that uncommon and people still seem attached to those bands.

I dunno in a lot of peoples eyes there new album is good im just not a fan of the new singer, darren somthing or other isnt it. His voice just really puts me off the music and therefore there dead in my eyes. I thought soulfly were absolute ****e until prophecy came out tbh so its not that im just hung over about max being gone.

Sean7

Serious man, that is ****. It'd be great if he joined Soulfly though.

Doctor J

Having given his announcement a bit of thought and having considered the vastly improving quality of the last couple of albums, maybe it's not such a bad thing after all. I like where Sepultura are headed and if the new guy is pushing in the same direction, not going against it like Igor seems to have been, then maybe the future promises some serious quality

dimerocks

considering soulfly constantly release the same old **** over and over again i couldn't give a toss if iggor joins them appart from being dissapounted. today i am much mor positive now that the band have released a statement. I would be even more positive if they announced that the new drummer was to be Roy Mayorga, that would please me no end.

Necronomicon

If anyone's interested, Igor's first interview since leaving:

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=53655

Drummo

Ah b*ll*cks!!!!

Doctor J

Looks like it might be the end of the band as a recording entity

Necronomicon

Read that interview earlier and it made me a very sad panda. Does stirring **** up run in the Cavalera gene-pool?

dimerocks

i think they will tour and hopefully ask Roy Mayorga to join as the drummer. That would be killer otherwise i think there will be the unfortunate event of a reunion. That would not please me at all.

Frank Bullitt

man roy is in stone sour full time now,they have a new chap for the rest of the tour and then as andreas has said its unclear if they will even look for a new drummer,roy is in a band now that is touring and have just released an album so i highly doubt he will leave them to go back to sepultura

dimerocks

by the time there touring cycle is going to be over seps will be readyto recor a new album or thinking about the next step. Stone Sour is just a Slipknot side project so i wouldn't expect them to run the new album for longer than a year before slipknot start up again. There is no chance of him just upping and quiting i know that.

Doctor J

From blabbermouth

Former SEPULTURA drummer Igor Cavalera has formed a brand new project with hardcore Brooklyn "death rapper" NECRO. Cavalera had previously appeared on the song "Necrotura" off NECRO's "The Circle of Tyrants" CD.

"The news is that myself and Igor have started a band, we will go into the studio in the next month and record demos," Necro told BLABBERMOUTH.NET. "We have been planning on doing this for months before he even left SEPULTURA, but now that he has left it seems like the perfect time to let people know about this new project we are working on.

"We don't have a band name yet, but we know we want to make some brutal old-school '80s thrash/death metal type of **** in the lines of DEATH, OBITUARY, SLAYER, METALLICA, SEPULTURA, MEGADETH, etc. just to name a few bands that were insane in 1986-1990.

"Igor will be playing drums, obviously, I will be playing all rhythm guitar and some leads, as well as the bass, until I find our Geezer Butler/Cliff Burton. Currently I am that person that can play in that style, so I will handle bass for now. And I will make an attempt at doing the vocals as well. Being I am a highly respected rapper who invented the genres 'death rap' and 'metal hiphop' it shouldn't be an issue, plus for those that just think I am a newjack hiphop guy that doesnt know **** about metal, I was in a band called INJUSTICE when I was just the tender age of 12 years old. I currently have the INJUSTICE 1990 demo online at MySpace. Here is the link for anyone that wants to hear it: www.myspace.com/injustice1990.

"Also you will notice I have a positive quote from Jeff Beccera of POSSESSED on the page who also recently contacted me and we will be working together on my next metal hiphop project, as well as Mark from LAMB OF GOD who reached out to me, too."

"I was 13 years old when that demo was recorded, playing both lead and rhythm guitar, while my brother Ill Bill was playing bass and handling vocals at 17 years old. We had opened for SEPULTURA and OBITUARY at L'Amour [in Brooklyn] when i was 12, and also did many shows opening for bands like NAPALM DEATH at the Cabaret, SADUS, IMMOLATION, BIOHAZARD and LUDACHRIST.

"Not 100% confirmed, but Alex Skolnick [TESTAMENT] should be doing a lot of the leads on this new project, as he did the leads on the track 'Necrotura', which featured Alex, Igor and Matt Harvey from EXHUMED.

"I am funding the whole project out of my own pocket, 'cuz as you might or might not know, I run my own record label, Psycho+Logical-Records, for the past six years, 100% indie and have moved over 200,000+ units of CDs combined with no major label help. So if we can't find a metal label to release this project, we have something to fall back on, but we would prefer a professional experienced full-on metal label to release this project. We shall see.

"For those that wanna hear the metal hiphop songs I did with Jamey and Sean of HATEBREED, John and Trevor of OBITUARY, Igor and more, go to my metal hiphop page on MySpace and you can hear samples: www.myspace.com/necrometalhiphop."

Igor Cavalera will be joining Necro on stage on August 26, 2006 at the Nokia Theatre in New York City to perform "Necrotura" and many other songs live with Necro and crew. Also appearing will be Ill Bill (NON-PHIXION), Lord Ezec a.k.a. Danny Diablo (SKARHEAD, CROWN OF THORNZ), and Sabac Red (NON-PHIXION) and Riviera Regime.

Necronomicon

Yep, needing a break my ass. I see he has no problem flying to NY to record a ****ing album.

Frank Bullitt

dimerocks wrote:

by the time there touring cycle is going to be over seps will be readyto recor a new album or thinking about the next step. Stone Sour is just a Slipknot side project so i wouldn't expect them to run the new album for longer than a year before slipknot start up again. There is no chance of him just upping and quiting i know that.

im pretty sure the next step for seps is a long way away,not just finishing the current tour and there is still strong talk of a reunion which i would love to see,i myself wouldnt like to see roy in seps full time anyway,he is good and all but i think another drummer would suit better

dimerocks

I don't want to see the reunion at all. I just have things against Max and don't want to see him playing with Paulo and Andreas again. I think he will play with Iggor soon though. And I also love Derrick Green and I would feel very sorry for him if he wasn't accomadated. I think not only is he a really really nice guy but he has helped Seps develop their sound. No two Sepultura albums since he arrived have sounded the same and in my eyes they all have been on grade A quality.

Frank Bullitt

dont get me wrong i love derrick as well,he is a sound bloke and a quality front man but to me to see sepultura with max,iggor,andreas and paulo would be the best

dimerocks

have you seen soulfly?? It might turn you off max.

Frank Bullitt

i was at soulfly in january and i thought it was a good show,really enjoyed it alot

Necronomicon

Max being a dick as usual:

BLABBERMOUTH.NET

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=54025

MAX CAVALERA: 'I Wasn't Surprised' To Hear IGOR Left SEPULTURA - June 21, 2006

Former SEPULTURA/current SOULFLY frontman Max Cavalera has commented on last week's announcement that his brother, drummer Igor Cavalera, was leaving SEPULTURA to pursue "other projects." The following is an excerpt from an interview Patrizia Mazzuoccolo of the Norwegian metal radio show "Tinitus" conducted with Max last Friday (June 16) backstage at the Norwegian Wood Festival in Oslo, Norway:

Tinitus: Were you surprised when you heard that Igor left SEPULTURA?

Max: "Not really, because it's an unhappy camp over there. Because it doesn't have the same spirit anymore. It's like trying to create something that's not there anymore. So I was not really surprised. I was surprised that SEPULTURA tried to keep up for this long, because, really, I just saw them going more down and down and down — with every album, less popular, less popular. They should've left the name alone."

Tinitus: Obviously, you must have heard this so many times: a SEPULTURA reunion. There's so many reunions nowadays. Would that be ever possible in the future?

Max: "It's possible. There's nothing concrete at all. There's a lot of rumors over there. But I think when it happens, it will happen the right way, [for] the right reason, [at] the right time. When it happens, it will be great. But in the meantime, this is great — with SOULFLY, anyway. So, I'm not like one of those musicians that are like, 'I need to do a reunion because my band sucks.' Some guys have that problem — I don't."

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He hasn't talked to any of them (bar one or two phone calls with Igor) for 10 years, and he has the cheek to say "it's an unhappy camp".
Max, you're a twat, nobody gives a **** what you think anymore. It's been 10 years, move on.

Frank Bullitt

he clearly has moved on,his band played the main stage at download last week

Drummo

Gintonious wrote:

he clearly has moved on,his band played the main stage at download last week

Doesn't look too clear to me!

Frank Bullitt

compared to sepultura its crystal clearn,he is deffo pushin for the reunion,the amount that all parties involved could make from it is mad