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Mir to fight.....

  • 08-06-2006 12:30pm
    #1
    Dragan
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    Dan Christison from TUF2 at UFC 61.

    Below are the confirmed bouts so far.


    Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock
    Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski
    Frank Mir vs. Dan Christison
    Josh Neer vs. Josh Burkman
    Gilbert Aldana vs. Cheick Kongo


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  • #2
    dlofnep
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    Nothing zingy about this card. I think the Ortiz/Shamrock fight will be explosive for about the first 30 seconds, and will be followed by a brutual GnP session by Tito for 1 or 2 rounds..

    At the end of the fight, Joe Rogan will interview both guys and Shamrock will act humble and accept Tito is the better fighter.


  • #3
    Roper
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    dlofnep wrote:
    Nothing zingy about this card. I think the Ortiz/Shamrock fight will be explosive for about the first 30 seconds, and will be followed by a brutual GnP session by Tito for 1 or 2 rounds..

    At the end of the fight, Joe Rogan will interview both guys and Shamrock will act humble and accept Tito is the better fighter.
    LOL!
    Then go back to bitching about him!:D

    I think Mir's being given a helping hand here... Plenty of tough heavyweights (not too many good ones admittedly) and he's been given a recent amateur. I respect the guy for what he's done coming back and all, and the Pe De Pano fight might have been a matter of confidence and ring rust, but I think there's also a good chance that he's finished.


  • #4
    Dragan
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    Roper wrote:
    but I think there's also a good chance that he's finished.
    In fairness did he ever really get started????


  • #5
    Roper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Well, thats another question. He was a submissions guy in a heavyweight division full of wrasslers, so I think he had an appeal more than anything. The Sylvia arm break was horrible though.


  • #6
    mirwillbeback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,016 ✭✭✭mirwillbeback


    UFC World Champion. Beat Sylvia inside 1min, Tank inside 1minute, Pete Williams inside 1minute, dominated Wes Sims ( twice ) so not quite sure how you can say he " never got started ".

    Ian Freeman beat him on the adrenaline from his fathers death, and his only other loss was after 2 years out with a SERIOUS injury. He may well be finished, but god he was a super jits guy pre-injury.


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  • #7
    Dragan
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    mirwillbeback wrote:
    UFC World Champion. Beat Sylvia inside 1min, Tank inside 1minute, Pete Williams inside 1minute, dominated Wes Sims ( twice ) so not quite sure how you can say he " never got started ".

    Ian Freeman beat him on the adrenaline from his fathers death

    To be honest, i would hardly say he dominated Wes Sims twice, if we can justify the "ian freeman beat him on adrenaline" then we can justify "Mir was lucky to knock Sims out with the "last gasp" combo that he threw".

    In fairness, Mir was hardly the greatest ever champ in what is hardly the world number one heavy weight division but as was already said, that really is a topic for another day.

    Personally i think he career was cut short, i think there was gonna be some evolution on Mir's part and he would turn into a great and i hope he can still do that and overcome the effects of the accident.


  • #8
    goo
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    mirwillbeback wrote:
    UFC World Champion. Beat Sylvia inside 1min, Tank inside 1minute, Pete Williams inside 1minute, dominated Wes Sims ( twice ) so not quite sure how you can say he " never got started".

    Ian Freeman beat him on the adrenaline from his fathers death, and his only other loss was after 2 years out with a SERIOUS injury. He may well be finished, but god he was a super jits guy pre-injury.

    If you put the Freeman fight down to anything it's the punches in the face Mir took because he wouldn't let go of the ankle he'd spent ages trying to get. I don't think bereavement is that much of a fight decider otherwise everyone would be doing it...

    Wes Sims and Tank Abbott, aswell, not exactly the hardest fights going.


  • #9
    Valmont
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    mirwillbeback wrote:
    UFC World Champion. Beat Sylvia inside 1min, Tank inside 1minute, Pete Williams inside 1minute, dominated Wes Sims ( twice ) so not quite sure how you can say he " never got started ".

    Ian Freeman beat him on the adrenaline from his fathers death, and his only other loss was after 2 years out with a SERIOUS injury. He may well be finished, but god he was a super jits guy pre-injury.

    Mir lost against Ian Freeman because he decided to let freeman punch him in the head repeatedly, stupid thing to do regardless of the heel hook he was trying to set up.

    He didn't dominate Wes Sims twice! As I recall Sims stomped his face in the first time, I think he just thought he was fighting in pride or something. "A win against tank" means nothing these days.

    That being said, Mir is awesome and he fights a difficult style for other heavyweights to deal with. Hopefully he will make a comeback, but who knows?


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