Lithuania almost country-wide Wimax trial

damien

http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/newslog/PermaLink,guid,4743e6eb-fcb4-422e-89db-3c953bd72440.aspx

Looks like this (pre-)Wimax tril is covering most of Lithuania. 3.5ghz. Who has that spectrum in Ireland I wonder?

Sponge Bob

Eircom.

They must cover 70% of the population with it by .......end June 2006.

Otherwise they can lose their National 3.5Ghz Licence ...and we could give it to the ambitious and competent Lithaunians or else Comreg can fine them lots and lots of money .

watty

I wonder how much it will cost to buy? I can think of things to do with it.

I suspect nothing will happen.

Perhaps having masts that have 70% coverage is all they need do and they don't have to sell the stuff to anyone?

bealtine

watty wrote:

I suspect nothing will happen.

Never bite the hand that feeds you and keeps you in pink champagne...

Capt'n Midnight

watty wrote:

Perhaps having masts that have 70% coverage is all they need do and they don't have to sell the stuff to anyone?

Maybe they will propose a kit containing an 8m dish so anyone within a 30Km radius would be able to connect :rolleyes:

seriously 70% - would that just need the cities covered ?

Sponge Bob

Capt'n Midnight wrote:

seriously 70% - would that just need the cities covered ?

More. The sum of every town in the state with a population over 1500 persons is about 60% of the population so they will have to go country and western to meet the coverage target. And their airspan gear has a range of 8km .

They must meet a number of cells target and a number of cell in certain counties target as well.

bminish

Sponge Bob wrote:

More. The sum of every town in the state with a population over 1500 persons is about 60% of the population so they will have to go country and western to meet the coverage target. And their airspan gear has a range of 8km .
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I have been told that they are also currently buying Alvarion kit for 3.5 ghz
.brendan

uncle_sam_ie

bminish wrote:

I have been told that they are also currently buying Alvarion kit for 3.5 ghz
.brendan

What is the range of the Alvarion? And do you need a line of site?

bminish

uncle_sam_ie wrote:

What is the range of the Alvarion? And do you need a line of site?

Of course you need LOS, at 3.5 Ghz the best you can do is NEAR Line of sight in terrain where you have enough clutter to reflect the signals in to you and that will only work out to a few Km.
In the clear with pre-wimax kit you can expect to do 15Km at full spec and probably near full spec to 30Km plus from a well engineered sectorised base station.
Eircom's Current Airspan deployments are using omni directional antennas in many areas, these would have a lot less gain than sector antennas and this will reduce the range accordingly.

Eircom only have 2x11 Mhz allocations on 3.5 Ghz so if they are intending to do wide-scale roll outs then they will have to use lots of smaller cells or they will run out of space pretty quickly.

on the other hand if they sue it as fill in for areas ADSL can't reach they will get by just fine with their current allocation

Of course the current policy of doing bugger all with the 3.5 Ghz allocation is also a way to ensure that they avoid any congestion problems.

.brendan

jwt

What is the range of the Alvarion? And do you need a line of site?

Well if its anything like the restrictions they impose an ADSL you can assume that you will require not only LOS but also no trees that might at some point in the future grow into the LOS, a suitably firm anchor point for the antenna such as a custom built tower, be able to guarantee that the migratory path of the African swallow (with or without coconut) doesn’t pass between you and the base station etc etc.

Once reaching those minor requirements the engineer will conduct a site survey (from his desk) to confirm LOS, distance (which will be the maximum that 100% success is guaranteed by the manufacturer e.g. 1000 metres), and some other minor technical considerations such as N+1 power and HVAC redundancy on your side, insurance for the engineer mounting the antenna, lightning conductors and arrestors, comms rack, access to said comms rack at any hour your not there (no way an engineer will ever arrive while you are at the premises)

Then expect a small delay while orders are processed, lost, reprocessed, cancelled, engineers are scheduled, rescheduled then diverted (because you were at the premises see point above), so say 6-8 months?

Apart from that it should be fine.


John

uncle_sam_ie

jwt wrote:

Well if its anything like the restrictions they impose an ADSL you can assume that you will require not only LOS but also no trees that might at some point in the future grow into the LOS, a suitably firm anchor point for the antenna such as a custom built tower, be able to guarantee that the migratory path of the African swallow (with or without coconut) doesn’t pass between you and the base station etc etc.

Once reaching those minor requirements the engineer will conduct a site survey (from his desk) to confirm LOS, distance (which will be the maximum that 100% success is guaranteed by the manufacturer e.g. 1000 metres), and some other minor technical considerations such as N+1 power and HVAC redundancy on your side, insurance for the engineer mounting the antenna, lightning conductors and arrestors, comms rack, access to said comms rack at any hour your not there (no way an engineer will ever arrive while you are at the premises)

Then expect a small delay while orders are processed, lost, reprocessed, cancelled, engineers are scheduled, rescheduled then diverted (because you were at the premises see point above), so say 6-8 months?

Apart from that it should be fine.


John

The joys of living in Ireland!

Sponge Bob

jwt wrote:

Apart from that it should be fine.

Of course it will.

For about 3 years Comreg pretended they would allow oversight of their utter incompetence by having a MAP of these.........actually a Holding page for a map it was . Anybody for a copy from the WayBackMachine to remind them. The holding page has been abolished by Comreg .

Then somebody actually found the map, (damien somebody) , and to make it worse they linked it in here last year Comreg obligingly deleted the map from their site as soon as Eircom asked them to a few days later. Unfortunately some scuts had backed it up and you may now see it here seeing as Comreg won't let us see it .

Look at how ****e the eircom gear is compared to the Lithuanian Gear and how are they supposed to cover 70% of the population with such small cells ?????


Eircom in Ireland





compared to

Advanced Telco In Lithuania (using similar gear in same spectrum)




Must check that licence to see what the compliance targets are this month and hope that Comreg do not do what they did in 2003. They simply abolished the targets so they would not have to enforce them ?????

Useless Pack of ***

jwt

Taking a line due west of Dublin there are 3 in the Midlands that I would guess are Tullamore, Athlone and Tyrrellspass/Rochfortbridge?


John