more river decisions..

ocallagh

Fold/Call on the river..?? I may as well have AA taped across my forehead in this hand.

** Game ID 820986045 starting - 2006-06-07 15:10:09

** Callop [Hold 'em] (2.00|4.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money



- ocallagh sitting in seat 1 with $439.50

- ruxpin sitting in seat 2 with $62.60

- baresello sitting in seat 3 with $489.18 [Dealer]

- RL33982 sitting in seat 4 with $377.50

- Brandvold sitting in seat 6 with $478.00



RL33982 posted the small blind - $2.00

Brandvold posted the big blind - $4.00



** Dealing card to ocallagh: Ace of Spades, Ace of Hearts

ocallagh raised - $16.00

ruxpin folded

baresello folded

RL33982 folded

Brandvold raised - $52.00

ocallagh raised - $116.00

Brandvold called - $116.00



** Dealing the flop: 5 of Spades, Queen of Hearts, 10 of Diamonds

Brandvold checked

ocallagh bet - $120.00

Brandvold called - $120.00



** Dealing the turn: 4 of Clubs

Brandvold checked

ocallagh checked


** Dealing the river: 7 of Hearts

Brandvold went all-in - $246.00

fuzzbox

Ocallagh .... you are trying really hard to get the least possible value here right?

This is a super-fast call. Tough for you if he has QQ.

If I 3-bet preflop then I make it 150+
I pot (or 2/3rd) the flop and push the turn (even though I hate the board)

Gholimoli

ocallagh wrote:

Fold/Call on the river..?? I may as well have AA taped across my forehead in this hand.

** Game ID 820986045 starting - 2006-06-07 15:10:09

** Callop [Hold 'em] (2.00|4.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money



- ocallagh sitting in seat 1 with $439.50

- ruxpin sitting in seat 2 with $62.60

- baresello sitting in seat 3 with $489.18 [Dealer]

- RL33982 sitting in seat 4 with $377.50

- Brandvold sitting in seat 6 with $478.00



RL33982 posted the small blind - $2.00

Brandvold posted the big blind - $4.00



** Dealing card to ocallagh: Ace of Spades, Ace of Hearts

ocallagh raised - $16.00

ruxpin folded

baresello folded

RL33982 folded

Brandvold raised - $52.00

ocallagh raised - $116.00

Brandvold called - $116.00



** Dealing the flop: 5 of Spades, Queen of Hearts, 10 of Diamonds

Brandvold checked

ocallagh bet - $120.00

Brandvold called - $120.00



** Dealing the turn: 4 of Clubs

Brandvold checked

ocallagh checked


** Dealing the river: 7 of Hearts

Brandvold went all-in - $246.00

I would strongly fear QQ here however your priced in calling I think.
He would have KK here sometimes and depending on the villain JJ as well.
I would not be surprised one bit if he had TT or even AK here.
I think I would also make it 150 pre flop. And then bet the pot on the flop.

Hectorjelly

pots too big to fold now

careca

Three possible hands QQ, KK and maybe (bad preflop call by him) 1010.
tricky one for me anyway. I could see him playing QQ and KK the exact same way. Close my eyes and call.

I'll rule out the other AA because that would never happen online

Samba

Your check on the turn is incredibly weak imo and this may well have induced a bluff.


Pay QQ, I really don't think QQ is pushing, afterall he wants a call, this looks like a bet designed for you to fold.


I would not be surprised to see AK here

ocallagh

fuzzbox wrote:

Ocallagh .... you are trying really hard to get the least possible value here right?

I know i know.. but the players were annoying me in this game by min raising anything that moved... so the raise pre-flop was more revenge..

fuzzbox

ocallagh wrote:

I know i know.. but the players were annoying me in this game by min raising anything that moved... so the raise pre-flop was more revenge..

Worked like a charm right .... .

The problem with minraising is that he has to call 50 to win your stack of 400 + the pot of 170 = 570. He gets 11:1 on his call. Its not ideal, but its doable with a pair ... especially since he can be pretty certain of your holding.

Hence, dont minraise here.

Gholimoli

Samba wrote:

Your check on the turn is incredibly weak imo and this may well have induced a bluff.


Pay QQ, I really don't think QQ is pushing, afterall he wants a call, this looks like a bet designed for you to fold.


I would not be surprised to see AK here

I don’t think the check on the turn is weak here at all.
He has reraised pre flop, potted the flop and has gotten called on every time.
Going into the defensive here is not weak in my opinion.
Check/calling here is not bad IMO.
Also he will induce bluffs from AK,AQ and he will get KK to bet here as well if villain is bad .how ever when you do induce a bluff and villain does bluff you will have to call.

ianmc38

Personally i don't see any villain calling a 3-bet preflop with AK and a bet of 120 on the flop with A high.

His range here is most certainly {TT+, AQs, AQo} and i'm leaning towards QQ/TT.

As everyone else has said, there's too much in the middle to fold now.

Samba

While I would agree with you Ian, it is rare you will see AK here considering the post flop action, you have to remember, this is on Tribeca.

It's a donkey farm

Samba

Nyah, double post.

Norwich Fan Rob

i believe he may well have the other AA here !!!

cardshark202

Samba wrote:

Your check on the turn is incredibly weak imo and this may well have induced a bluff.


Pay QQ, I really don't think QQ is pushing, afterall he wants a call, this looks like a bet designed for you to fold.


I would not be surprised to see AK here

The pot is over $470 so I think QQ should push here. Its only just over half the pot.

MrPillowTalk

My money would have been in on the turn, but that said theres no folding now.

Samba

results?

mewso

I agree you probably have to call but I'm wondering if you know your villian well enough to put him on QQ/10 10 say 75% of the time is that a fold? Or in other words being too lazy to do all the calculations then what percentage would it have to be a fold. Or is it as everyone seems to think a call every time?

ocallagh

He had TT. The way the hand played out I knew it before I put my money in. He is not calling on the flop without a set or KK. He doesn't have enough to bluff me off any hand.. and AK would be a terrible call IMO. When he checked the turn I ruled out KK. I even checked after him on the turn in a desperate attempt to get to a cheap showdown.. I suppose against your typical player it's a call and in the long run you'll get paid off by other hands. If I ever min-raise pre-flop again someone shoot me!