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bet the river?

  • 06-06-2006 10:58am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭


    Live MTT... this hand cost me a few chips.

    Down to 3 tables playing 6/7 handed. Blinds 150-300. I have avg stack (about 15k)

    UTG limps for 300.
    UTG+1 makes it 700. (obviously thought the blinds were 100-200 as it's an unusual raise for him at the current level).
    I get 55 in the BB and call.
    UTG calls too.
    Flop 932 with one diamond.
    check all around.
    Turn 4d.
    At this stage I know I'm ahead of UTG+1.

    All players in this pot are regulars in the Fitz and would rarely mess around with an overpair in this situation. (UTG might just have AA.. but probably not!) he plays any two cards, and he plays them well.

    UTG bets 1k on the turn.
    UTG+1 is not happy but folds.
    I call.
    River Ad to give me a straight, but also bring the flush on board.

    What are the chances I'm behind here? How often does UTG+1 have diamonds here?, and how much should I bet..?

    Any comments on my play appreciated.


Comments

  • Subscribers Posts: 32,858 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    call with AJ :p

    sorry, I am a petty, bitter individual


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,858 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Seriously though I am surprised you don't bet this turn card, especially seeing as you say you are almost sure you are ahead. After getting a safe (free) turn card which does help you also I am surprised you were giving the chance to see a free river card which could hurt you.

    Obviously I cannot comment any more since I was at (but not involved in this hand) the table. I personnaly think you played this hand (turn and river especially) much worse than I would have expected you to.

    Edit: I think I remembered incorrectly how you played the river so I take that bit back, unless you did play it like I thought you did at first instead of my reconsidered recollection. If you get my drift.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    ocallagh wrote:
    Live MTT... this hand cost me a few chips.

    Down to 3 tables playing 6/7 handed. Blinds 150-300. I have avg stack (about 15k)

    UTG limps for 300.
    UTG+1 makes it 700. (obviously thought the blinds were 100-200 as it's an unusual raise for him at the current level).
    I get 55 in the BB and call.
    UTG calls too.
    Flop 932 with one diamond.
    check all around.
    Turn 4d.
    At this stage I know I'm ahead of UTG+1.

    All players in this pot are regulars in the Fitz and would rarely mess around with an overpair in this situation. (UTG might just have AA.. but probably not!) he plays any two cards, and he plays them well.

    UTG bets 1k on the turn.
    UTG+1 is not happy but folds.
    I call.
    River Ad to give me a straight, but also bring the flush on board.

    What are the chances I'm behind here? How often does UTG+1 have diamonds here?, and how much should I bet..?

    Any comments on my play appreciated.
    I think seen as you were out of position you had to play the hand passively so I think you played it well.
    On the river I think I would rather a check/call rather than a bet here.
    Your hand does have show down value but if you bet and he comes over the top you will have to drop it.

    If you bet I feel he will not call it with a worse hand as that flop is particularly likely to have hit your hand seen as your on BB.he may call a small bet with a pair/two pair something but everything considered I think check/calling a bet is better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    I like a bet on this river, but I might have to fold to a raise.

    I am betting for value, as he can still call with some worse hands, but it can double as a blocker, as your hand could easily be a flush-draw that just got there, so he cant really raise you without a flush.

    Bet half the pot or so.

    Oh ... hes also not likely to bet any sort of pair/twopair hands now, so check/calling loses value from those hands.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    Personally i would bet the river here, by way of a value bet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    Personally i would bet the river here, by way of a value bet.

    U will get called by a set, or 2p with Ax suited or the like.
    U are only behind a flush, and would he play KQd or 78d from utg, and call a raise?
    I like to lead river for 1/2 pot, and get called by 444 or similar.
    If he comes over the top, it can only be a big flush, as your play is indicative of a flush draw itself, and other marginal hands would fold or call behind.
    Indeed i would say he has 444 of 999 a lot more often than a flush in this scenario.


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