whats the sentence ?

tylerdylan

Hi Guys
of course just looking for an opinion and speaking hypoteticaly...
Should a member of the public be caught stealing from a shop and duly
admits, is arrested and sent to court whats the likelihood of a jail sentence?
Considering if the joe public had never been arrested,never been in court
first time offence is there a chance a judge would make an example and impose a jail sentence? In situations like this would said person need a solitor in court?
any opinions greatly appreciated.

hullaballoo

It depends on what Mr Public stole. If it was only a small item, say clothing, it would probably not be a jail sentence, but a fine. However, if it were a laptop or something else expensive, then it could be jail. It depends on the circumstances of each case and the individual involved.

Trojan911

tylerdylan wrote:

Hi Guys
of course just looking for an opinion and speaking hypoteticaly...
Should a member of the public be caught stealing from a shop and duly
admits, is arrested and sent to court whats the likelihood of a jail sentence?
Considering if the joe public had never been arrested,never been in court
first time offence is there a chance a judge would make an example and impose a jail sentence? In situations like this would said person need a solitor in court?
any opinions greatly appreciated.

TD,

Hypothetically speaking, this clean living, previously honest Joe Public could also try to approach the shop indirectly via the Garda dealing, and offer to repay the value of the item and, say, a contribution to their poor box. The shop owner may reconsider the charges and withdraw the allegation. Then again they may not....


TJ911...

tylerdylan

If approaching the shop was not an option...
and if item cost under 200 notes...
whats the likelihood of jail?
would jail start from the court date? would joe be taken away in shakels?:eek:
again hypothecially speaking and just all opinons being bounched around;)
and if joe public was holding his hand up and not denying the charge of course.

Eru

If Joe is pleading guilty then the chances of jail are about 1 in a thousand however judges all have moods and personalities so its impossible to say it wont happen.

Adult cautioning would have been used for a minor amount me thinks (DPP states 1000 euro or less but in practise the accepted price is a lot lower)

As for lawyers, your call but most judges dont like people to represent themselves in court.

Our man in Havana

tylerdylan wrote:

would jail start from the court date? would joe be taken away in shakels?:eek:

I think it depends on a how quickly a warrant of detention can be drawn up. This could take a while. It may also be stayed in the event of an appeal. Garda manpower may come into it too. I am not too sure of the exact procedure, our resident Garda should be able to enlighten us.

Normally bail would be granted in the event of an appeal.

Eru

In the event of a sentence its straight into the cell and once the warrent is signed and deliveried of to the Joy or wherever.

If an appeal is allowed its usually higher bail and requires a cash payment.

tylerdylan

Thank you all so much for all your 'opinions'

tylerdylan

whats joy? mountjoy?:o

Thirdfox

tylerdylan wrote:

Thank you all so much for all your 'opinions'

Therein lies the hypocrisy of it all... reminds me of the Emporer's New Clothes

Good luck with the hypothetical trial!

tylerdylan

yea funny eh?:D