QQ first to act on tight table

marius

This hand is annoying me and I wanted to get some advice on what I should have done.

Last 40 odd of PPP $24 FO

I am slightly below average stack with 6.5K. Blinds are 300/600

The table has really tightened up in the last 20 mins, regularly folded all the way to 3*bb raises.

I get QQ and am first to act. First problem is any raise could easily push everyone off, I really hate limping from here but with the table as tight as it is I do so - hoping to get raised along the way. (comments?)

3 callers (no raises grrr.) including both blinds.

FLOP A 5 5 (doh)

im thinking there must be an ace out there somewhere, checked to me and I check (comments?) next to play pushes (has me covered). Blinds fold....what do I do?

ianmc38

If everyone's folding to a 3xBB raise, then raise 3xBB. The blinds here are nearly 20% of your stack, so you should be happy enough to pick them up.

As it played out, I fold.

brianmc

marius wrote:

This hand is annoying me and I wanted to get some advice on what I should have done.

Last 40 odd of PPP $24 FO

I am slightly below average stack with 6.5K. Blinds are 300/600

The table has really tightened up in the last 20 mins, regularly folded all the way to 3*bb raises.

I get QQ and am first to act. First problem is any raise could easily push everyone off, I really hate limping from here but with the table as tight as it is I do so - hoping to get raised along the way. (comments?)

3 callers (no raises grrr.) including both blinds.

FLOP A 5 5 (doh)

im thinking there must be an ace out there somewhere, checked to me and I check (comments?) next to play pushes (has me covered). Blinds fold....what do I do?

Raise preflop next time.

Fold now.

bman

I would think you should have raised about 1,000 (half the pot) on the flop. This way if your called you know your probably beat, but you may get someone with an Ace and a low kicker to throw it away.

Ollieboy

I really hate this limping in first position, its becoming more common and the only time I do it, if I know a player will raise in a later position or if either of the blinds are aggressive. Here I would raise, get rid of all the marginal A / k rag hands and bet the flop.

As for after the flop, fold.

marius

Yeah,

Folded it in the end. Guess I was being a bit greedy. It was late enough and I had been card dead for ages, I was really looking to double up and probably let it cloud my judgement.

Ollieboy

marius wrote:

Yeah,

Folded it in the end. Guess I was being a bit greedy. It was late enough and I had been card dead for ages, I was really looking to double up and probably let it cloud my judgement.

thats the problems with QQ/KK/AA, everyone feels they should double up and knock out a player, but after the flop, this hand is only a pair, unless you have a nice flop. I think thats why you hear so many badbeats in relation to these hands. I won a tournament one night and never got AA/KK once and only got QQ twice. I think I only got AK maybe twice also.

The trick is to let these hands go after the flop if you think your behind.

Hitman Actual

You've ~10BBs preflop: push it and be done with it. If the table has been so tight, have you any real reason to believe that anyone will raise anyway?

Edit: Sorry, misread original post about everyone folding to 3BB raises. Is it being raised most hands? In that case, then limping isn't too bad at all. But I probably just jam this pre-flop anyway. It's crude, but I hate being in sub-10BB territory; your folding equity goes to hell.

Boie

In tight games people loosen up quite often if someone has limped infront of them so I really think you should raise this pre-flop. As played; have to fold.

Mellor

I'd push all-in preflop and hope that a larger stack would see that your getting low, try knock you out and give you your value.

In the end did you see what won it?

Bandana boy

If a 3BB raise will take down the blinds then raise 3*BB and take them down
Also do this without QQ in position lots