AA is it ever right to limp?

Washout

Hi guys, just wanted opinions in this play last night in the SE DC...not sure what i did sits right with me.

I get dealt AA UTG- and i have about 7.5k blinds are 5-1k. I limp in and here was my thought process.

1) 2-3 players quite aggressive players who would raise to a couple of limpers.

2) If I raise with that stack then it smells of a big hand (specially with my table image). if I push I think im losing value by possibly just stealing the blinds.

luckily enough I got a guy who pushed. I hate limping in with AA specially in EP but was i right to in this case.

just got to me...one of the guys at the table made a comment that he loves to see ppl who limp in with AA get crushed.

dirkey_wynne

Last night online, I did the very same. AA, either utg or utg+1, limped. Had been an aggressive table. Needless to say nobody raised. I bet a paired flop, got re-raised all in, which was called, so I folded. I would have lost the hand, but I know the two hands that went at it would not have been in had I raised. Or at least I assume they wouldn't.

I plucked off my fingernails.

Bandana boy

Washout wrote:

Hi guys, just wanted opinions in this play last night in the SE DC...not sure what i did sits right with me.

I get dealt AA UTG- and i have about 7.5k blinds are 5-1k. I limp in and here was my thought process.

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late stage in a tourney if you are sure of a raise from LP then limp is tempting
but I think you are going to want to be stealing blinds yourself you have 7.5 BBs left and at 500 -1k they are mighty tempting
so the worry is that people will quickly cotton on that you limp big hands so when you raise that means what ?
push you will be very suprised at what might look you up
How did you finish ?

brianmc

Washout wrote:

if I push I think im losing value by possibly just stealing the blinds.

1. - The blinds have a lot of value for you right now.

2. - A lot of people like to call short stacks all-ins in the vain hope that they've pushed with A2o when they have a monster like ATo or 33.


In a standard SE tournament, I'd just push - possibly with a pinch of drama. Your image at the table may affect things though.

ntlbell

AA Limpage

Waylander

I like to limp under the gun with AA or KK. Give someone else a chance to raise, and then call hesitantly or reraise depending on the player. The only real problem with this play is you need to be able to lay it down on the flop if noone else raised preflop.

strewelpeter

If I am at that table and I have been given any reason to think that you are a decent player...at this stage of the tourney I'm putting you on a monster hand... What else are you going to limp with?

Washout

strewelpeter wrote:

If I am at that table and I have been given any reason to think that you are a decent player...at this stage of the tourney I'm putting you on a monster hand... What else are you going to limp with?

im sure the table have me on weak tight..been at the table for a level and half and pushed twice and folded everything else (due to table aggression). once with AJ and the second time with on a complete bluff.

fuzzbox

Washout wrote:

im sure the table have me on weak tight..been at the table for a level and half and pushed twice and folded everything else (due to table aggression). once with AJ and the second time with on a complete bluff.

Yet now you limp utg..........?????

Does this fit with your normal profile?

Washout

fuzzbox wrote:

Yet now you limp utg..........?????

Does this fit with your normal profile?

jesus no...i would classify myself as a sensible tight aggressive player...normally i dont hang about and try to be cute with strong hands.

this was one occassion though i decided to hold back and try to be cute and afterwards felt i was wrong and still thinking about it. thus requiring opinions from the ppl here.

fuzzbox

Wash:
I mean - thus far you have either pushed or folded ... yet now you limp utg .... so something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Washout

thats why i posted for opinions. comfirming what ive been dwelling on. and to here you good ppl thoughts.

ianmc38

I think it's fine. To me or Fuzz your limp UTG is as subtle as a kick in the scones. To the average SE player, this goes unnoticed and people have a sickness of pushing after a few limpers (me included).

brianmc

Washout wrote:

thats why i posted for opinions. comfirming what ive been dwelling on. and to here you good ppl thoughts.

Washout, I saw the "SE tonight" thread where you mentioned the QQ hand.

Overall I think your game is far too tight at the moment.

ianmc38

brianmc wrote:

Overall I think your game is far too tight at the moment.

Having played with you a few times before washout, I fully agree with Brian.

You're almost as tight as HalfBaked!

Washout

ianmc38 wrote:

Having played with you a few times before washout, I fully agree with Brian.

You're almost as tight as HalfBaked!

u must introduce yourself the next time as i cant remember what you look like.

so can i ask if the ideal utopia is between being a rock and chief brody?

5starpool

Limping with AA should only be a calculated risk. You have to have a fair idea whether their will be a raise after you. If this turns into a 4 way unraised pot you have to be prepared to lay them down if necessary. If you are comfortable doing this while obviously pissed at the way it turned out then it can be worth the risk. It is not something I usually do however.

ollyk1

I like to limp once every six months or so, utg, at a low/early blind level, at an aggressive table where I have a loose image (1 in 50 tournies or so). Apart from that I raise.

At the later stages of a fast tournie in Dublin my range could be considered a little wider than normal so I push or raise sharply from any spot with aces (because of my table image I might still get action ).

Boie

It's good to limp when you're going to re-raise the biggest donk at the table.

Bandana boy

Again the temptation to limp so that you can re-raise needs to be suppressed late on in a tourney.
You should treat your steals and your big hands the same way to ensure succesful steals (unless deck has smacked you in the face you will spend more time stealing than having aa)

at this point the most succesful way to progress your chipcount is usually not turning over hands but robbing blinds this is the activity you should be worried about