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doctor strange

  • 31-05-2006 8:48am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    an odd one here...going anon for obvious reasons

    i'm in a rush so i'll be quick

    i'm male, early 20s

    One day when i was a kid, lets say 10/11/12 years old, I was sick (pain in tummy).

    My mam took me to a local doctor but not my regular one.

    During his examination (my mam was not present) he asked me to pull down my PJ bottoms, i did so to reveal my whole tummy (i asumed thats what he wanted to examine) but in fact he told me to pull them all the way down - he wanted to look at me genitalia.

    he had a look and said 'thats fine'.

    This memory only surfaced recently

    what I want to ask - is there any reason why a doc would examine a kids 'bits' in order to diagnose a tummy upset?

    ie: was this doc doing his job or perving on kids?

    i'm not claiming to be abused or traumatised, this could be a perfectly legitimate and reasonable examination procedure and i know people here are not doctors but who else can i ask? This guy is still practicing and if he is interfering with children i have to say something, right?

    thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭Femelade


    did he interfere with you though?
    i'm not a dr. and i doubt anyone here is, so i'm not sure if anyone can actually say that there would be no need for a dr to look down there, when checking out a tummy pain. there might be a legitimate reason, but who here would know for sure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Checking if your balls had dropped?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    ballooba wrote:
    Checking if your balls had dropped?

    if he didn't touch the OP, I'd be inclined to think he was just checking something like that as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭Linoge


    Femmy wrote:
    i'm not a dr. and i doubt anyone here is, so i'm not sure if anyone can actually say that there would be no need for a dr to look down there, when checking out a tummy pain.

    You're not a guy either! If you get kicked in the nuts you can get a very bad pain in your stomach. Maybe the doctor was checking the OP to see if he got a bang?

    Balls dropping is a good guess also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    yeah, i'd say checking if my balls had dropped is a good guess and no, he didnt touch me. i just remembered the incident a few weeks back and it really creeped me out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I dunno what they are testing for - but sometimes doctors like to grab you by the nuts and get you to give a little cough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    He was probably looking to rule out the possibility of a hernia in the groin region.

    The next time you are at a doctors surgery pose the same question to them.
    <edit> you may find he is afraid to have you in his surgery anymore however as he wont want to examine you without his lawyer present.

    It's a stupid thing to come up with after all those years if you ask me, unless you were traumatised.

    I remember a district nurse holding my nuts and asking me to cough, do you think maybe she was getting her jollies secretly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Blub2k4 wrote:
    He was probably looking to rule out the possibility of a hernia in the groin region.

    The next time you are at a doctors surgery pose the same question to them.

    It's a stupid thing to come up with after all those years if you ask me, unless you were traumatised.

    I remember a district nurse holding my nuts and asking me to cough, do you think maybe she was getting her jollies secretly?
    well jesus, i'm soooo sorry for asking.

    thanks for the input.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭chamlis


    I was just going to say hernia too. Quite legit, and if it was only a look then there's nothing to worry about. But hey, if more memories do surface then you should think about it.

    Goes to show the kind of paranoia that is creeping into people's lives these days over the few monsters that ARE out there doing bad things to kids...


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    I remember a docter did the exact same thing to me when I had a virus. Was a few years ago so I would have been a similar age as the OP. Didn't think anything of it

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭Vas_Guy


    I can say the following based on what i know.

    Its difficult for a kid to describe a tummy upset, the pain/upset can be caused by numerous things that originate in the testicles including:

    testicular torsion
    undescended testes
    hydrocele
    mumps:Mumps is a viral infection of the salivary glands with mild fever, loss of appetite. Other salivary glands are very occasionally affected and the illness is only serious if it affects older children and if it extends to inflammation in the glands associated with reproduction - the ovaries and testes.
    Inguinal hernia-check for groin swelling

    I hope this puts your mind are ease, but if you have children of your own always be with them if they are being examined by a doctor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Pataman


    When I was diagnosed with appendicitus, the doc juggled my lads. When I enquired why he said if the appendix bursts it can be detected by lumps on the testicles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,403 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I had the exact same experience with my doctor when I was 12. I thought it was wierd at the time but I presume he was checking for dropped testicles given the age. given that I hardly ever went to the doctor there wouldnot have been any other occassion to do that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    legistered wrote:
    well jesus, i'm soooo sorry for asking.

    thanks for the input.

    Yeah I just think that your post is sad, it's a great part of what is wrong with the world, no one trusts anyone anymore, and what with the compensation culture.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,785 ✭✭✭Nuttzz


    same happended to me, I had a hernia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    It's a sad state of affairs nowadays when people have to question what doctors do to children. I mean, god forbid, he might actually touch them.

    I guess we should report all the pediatricians, because you know, they can touch children down there. Those sick bastards.

    Seriously, if you were not traumatised by it, and nothing happened, why bother with this? Doctors check these things all the time, because they are doctors.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Blub2k4 wrote:
    Yeah I just think that your post is sad, it's a great part of what is wrong with the world, no one trusts anyone anymore, and what with the compensation culture.....

    And yet there are doctors/dentists/medical professions who are being found guilty of molestation. This person was wondering about it. Who are you to judge them anyways? And if you are so quick to judge someone, do you really think you should be in this section.. outta curiousity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Yes there have been incidents of medical staff sexually abusing patients but there is a fine line between being careful and being completely over the top.

    It's really quite a worrying trend and I'm meerly putting the situation into perspective.

    By all means ask questions and take precautions but I find it very worrying that someone would jump to the conclusion that their GP had intefered with them based on that description.

    I'm not judging anyone, I'm just saying that it's a sad state of affairs when people are that worried about potential professional misconduct and sexual abuse by medical staff.

    I do however, think that doctors are very patronising sometimes and carry out various examinations without explaining what they're doing and why. This can leave you feeling quite violated even when it doesn't involve anything embarassing.

    I know I had a major row with a consultant because he carried out a procedure on my ear without discussing it with me first. It didn't do me any harm and in fact solved the problem completely but I didn't appreciate his complete lack of discussion / explanation. I asked him what he was doing and he just hummed loudly at me and ignored my questions! I was extremely angry with him.

    I think perhaps this GP could have done a lot more to explain that he was checking for x, y and z. Every patient, regardless of age, should get a proper explanation of everything. If the original poster had had a proper explanation of why he checked down there he wouldn't be worrying about it years later.

    It's not a trip to the vets!

    Some doctors could do with a bit of a crash course in communications!

    I really don't think you've much to worry about about that GP though. Sounds like he was just doing his job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    And yet there are doctors/dentists/medical professions who are being found guilty of molestation. This person was wondering about it. Who are you to judge them anyways? And if you are so quick to judge someone, do you really think you should be in this section.. outta curiousity.

    I'm here to help people, I think in this case I may have helped a doctor keep his job, what are you doing here, apart from trolling? You didn't add squat to the discussion? I gave the first sensible suggestion for what the doctor was doing.

    Now it's OT so open a new thread for your woes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    legistered wrote:
    what I want to ask - is there any reason why a doc would examine a kids 'bits' in order to diagnose a tummy upset?

    Seems perfectly reasonable. The OP obviously didn't see a connection between the stomach and the genitalia. While it has been established since that there are a number of such connections, he clearly didn't realise this when he first posted.
    legistered wrote:
    i'm not claiming to be abused or traumatised, this could be a perfectly legitimate and reasonable examination procedure and i know people here are not doctors but who else can i ask? This guy is still practicing and if he is interfering with children i have to say something, right?

    The last sentence is a, in my opinion valid, reason for asking. And he has given the doctor the benefit of the doubt. It's not like he's screaming "oh my God! I've just realised I was abused by a pervert doctor! Let's torch his surgery!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    on a related MATTER, when i was a early teen, maybe 15, i remember a step in gp examining my breasts when i had a sore stomach. did this ever happen to other women?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    why does a doctor/nurse ask you to cough while cuppoing your jewels? what are they checking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭maxheadroom


    why does a doctor/nurse ask you to cough while cuppoing your jewels? what are they checking for?

    When you cough you increase the pressure in your abdominal cavity, which can cause a hernia to become more prominent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    sorry for dragging this up but there is some serious crazyness being talked on this thread and i want to clear a few things up.

    1. i never claimed he molested me, i was only asking why he would examine down below.

    2. i only ask the question because i had/have never had my bits examined by a doctor, even when i had blood in my urine - that is why i wanted to clear it up

    3. if i had been molested i would not seek compo - what would be the point of that? could money turn back time and stop it happening? No. Stupidity.

    4. Blub2k4's claim that he "may have helped a doctor keep his job" is utter madness. where are you geting this from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Lone Wolf


    on a related MATTER, when i was a early teen, maybe 15, i remember a step in gp examining my breasts when i had a sore stomach. did this ever happen to other women?


    The most probable reason he was doing that is because theres a strong link between stomach/gynae pain and breast pain and he was checking for any lumpswhich can be associated with the pain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Max_Nash


    on a related MATTER, when i was a early teen, maybe 15, i remember a step in gp examining my breasts when i had a sore stomach. did this ever happen to other women?

    I considering the age of the girl 15 she was too young for a male GP to examine her breasts, should be done by female doctors. Not that the males are up to anything its just women feel funny about strange men touching their breasts.

    Its can be a bit traumatic as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i was a bit troubled by it at the time since my breasts hadnt been handled yet (i was shy til my late teens). he didnt seem to "enjoy" it anyway but i think he made my mother step out of the room. she told me to be quiet and stop being silly when i mentioned it to her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭BeardyGit


    The cranks are coming out of the woodwork today, aren't they.

    There's nothing wrong with asking why a doctor might do something in a particular manner. But I'd suggest that unless you're asking another doctor all you're going to get is speculation - Because nobody here is likely to know for certain, are they?

    Like you should with any suspected medical problem, go ask another doctor if you're unsure about the way something is being 'handled'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Lone Wolf


    Max_Nash wrote:
    I considering the age of the girl 15 she was too young for a male GP to examine her breasts, should be done by female doctors. Not that the males are up to anything its just women feel funny about strange men touching their breasts.

    Its can be a bit traumatic as well.

    I totally agree, especially considering her age, it should have either been a female doctor or a nurse should have been in the room when the examination was carried out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭Blub2k4


    legistered wrote:
    4. Blub2k4's claim that he "may have helped a doctor keep his job" is utter madness. where are you geting this from?
    legistered wrote:
    This guy is still practicing and if he is interfering with children i have to say something, right?

    So do you reckon if you had said anything in todays climate in this country that he would still have a job?

    "No smoke unless there's fire" and all that, right?

    You could have left the above quoted sentence out and your post would have been just as valid and could have been answered and you could have kept that bit to yourself.

    I dont really want an answer to the above questions by the way, thanks anyway.


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