Ratm

Q-57 · 30-05-2006 10:16pm #1

The best rap-metal band of all time.Any other bands up there with them?

The Free Man · 30-05-2006 10:18pm

Q-57 wrote:

Any other bands up there with them?

em, yeah loads.

but yeah, rage were groundbreaking.

projectmayhem · 30-05-2006 10:59pm

you heard audioslave covering ratm? i love chris cornell's work, but it just doesn't sound right. he sounds too happy to be doing that stuff... zach was just pure, unadultarated anger and (cough) rage...

Tar.Aldarion · 30-05-2006 11:12pm

Nobody compares for me.

Ah, I'll stick some on now.

Gibson SG · 30-05-2006 11:31pm

where is Zack now?
Never really knew what the story was with him after Rage

senordingdong · 31-05-2006 12:28am

Probably in jail.

MunkyHed · 31-05-2006 7:56am

Zack did some solo work, there's a good track that he did with DJ shadow. That was a while ago now, he's probably knee deep in guerilla warfare now i'd say.
RATM- definately one of the greatest bands of all time. Our generations Led Zeppelin.

gucci · 31-05-2006 8:29am

RATM = brilliant, audioslave= yawn!! just shows that rage music sounded brilliant because of zachs rapping, just sounds avaerage or bland with chris cornell,who i used to like when with sound garden

bombidol · 31-05-2006 9:12am

Downset

John · 31-05-2006 10:53am

gucci wrote:

RATM = brilliant, audioslave= yawn!! just shows that rage music sounded brilliant because of zachs rapping, just sounds avaerage or bland with chris cornell,who i used to like when with sound garden

I don't think it's just the singing. The music is fiery and constantly interesting in RATM. The boys play boring by the numbers stadium rock in Audioslave.

billsteersnose · 31-05-2006 11:55am

Downset are great. Not as good as RATM but definitely worth a listen if that rap crossover stuff is your cup of tea....

Anger: Hostility Towards The Opposition

curious_george · 31-05-2006 1:02pm

MunkyHed wrote:

Zack did some solo work, there's a good track that he did with DJ shadow. That was a while ago now, he's probably knee deep in guerilla warfare now i'd say.

He also brought out a track called 'We Want It All', produced by Trent Reznor it is more singing (or shouting) then his usual style, and he appeared on a Saul Williams track, 'Act III Scene 2'.

From there he went back to his roots and played a few gigs with the Mexican group Son de Madera. He is now helping out with the South Central Farmers in Los Angeles playing some solo stuff to raise money.

The best site for Zack info is www.zdlr.net

Angus MacGyver · 31-05-2006 5:08pm

Remember Body Count, The music was so amateur. Good for a laugh though.

Tar.Aldarion · 31-05-2006 5:13pm

I urge everybody to go out and buy this album, three or four times.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002MHE/102-4531533-5073721?v=glance&n=5174

Great stuff, ha.

The Free Man · 31-05-2006 5:16pm

no way, i totally fogot about body count :eek:

sorta on topic, evil empire is by far rage's best album.

Dragan · 31-05-2006 5:33pm

Gibson SG wrote:

where is Zack now?
Never really knew what the story was with him after Rage

Gun running for rebels, believe it or not.

projectmayhem · 31-05-2006 5:55pm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7415989872107374995

It wasn't me! · 31-05-2006 11:52pm

I am partial to a spot of RATM now and then. That was a band with some anger. Audioslave lost all that in my opinion. They now play slowed up mellow rock with no edge. RATM riffs came at you with meat cleavers.

Earthhorse · 01-06-2006 8:44am

Their first album was great.

Everything they did after that was patchy. Would have loved to have seen them live.

cournioni · 01-06-2006 9:01am

I always liked Biohazard.

bombidol · 01-06-2006 9:03am

Bosy count were fantastic. It was rough and raw and in a lot of ways made some harsh political statements. The fact that these guys were all from the Ghetto made em even better that RATM in my opinion. rage were excellent but BC cut through better for me personally. BC 3rd album Violent Demise was excellent.

Cousin it · 01-06-2006 3:57pm

every rage album is pure genius. Soundgarden were pure genius. I still like audioslave a lot and eagerly await their next album which they've billed as they're heaviest yet. hmmm:) *expects wave of cynicism from audislave detractors*:D

Malice · 02-06-2006 11:56am

Rage Against The Machine were an absolutely phenominal band. When they first appeared they were just so different to what was around at the time. Admittedly a lot of the political messages went straight over my head, I was more interested the anger that Zack spits out with every line.

They are definitely one band I regret never seeing live. I have a few live RATM tracks and you can really feel the energy being generated! All together now: "F**k You I Won't Do What You Tell Me"

Malice · 02-06-2006 11:56am

Rage Against The Machine were an absolutely phenominal band. When they first appeared they were just so different to what was around at the time. Admittedly a lot of the political messages went straight over my head, I was more interested the anger that Zack spits out with every line.

They are definitely one band I regret never seeing live. I have a few live RATM tracks and you can really feel the energy being generated! All together now: "F**k You I Won't Do What You Tell Me"

projectmayhem · 02-06-2006 1:41pm

my brother got me their live DVD for christmas, and there's a whole section where they play outside the democrats convention... fantasitc performance followed by rioting and police brutality... it's so ratm

Malice · 02-06-2006 3:19pm

PORNAPSTER wrote:

I always liked Biohazard.

Ah yes, Biohazard! Excellent band. Their album "Urban Discipline" is fantastic and I would recommend it to all RATM fans.

MrJoeSoap · 02-06-2006 3:24pm

RATM still sound as fresh now as they did 14 years ago. Brilliant brilliant band.

Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are american dreams

Earthhorse · 02-06-2006 3:41pm

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are american dreams

Ha ha! At my eighteenth birthday this song came on and when it got to that part I started marching on the spot and pumping my fist in the air at every word De La Rocha said.

My friends had never seen me so worked up before and probably thought I was crazy.

Ruu_Old · 03-06-2006 6:41pm

Really liked RATM, Evil Empire ftw. I have it on cassette (a what?!):D .

Sgt. Politeness · 03-06-2006 9:45pm

Body count was great, i d that album when i was 13..well over 10 yers ago now. Evil dick was an absolute classic track.
Also whoever said evil empire was rages best album...not a chance. They were on a downward spiral after thier debut, they never topped it.
As much as i liked ratm back in the day, theres something very 'angry 15yr old boy' about them, so i wouldnt go around telling people i love them or anything nowadays.

Lemming · 03-06-2006 10:27pm

RATM ftw tbh. AH ... good old internet abbrevations

Their songs capture pure anger perfectly. Every single song has pure .. well ... "rage" in it. Very few bands can make songs sound that fresh and raw, let along consistently across albums.

I regret not having the chance to see them. Definitely one of the defining bands of the last 15 or so years.

Ratm

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