Newsgroups

Irish Gunner

Hey

Trying to decide should I get into the whole newsgroups scene

On utv broadband and they only page I could find out about them was on the below

http://www.u.tv/support/ans.asp?id=288&category=other

http://news.cis.dfn.de

[url]news://news4.euro.net[/url]

Now what to do with them anyone configuration password etc anyone try these ?

Downloaded Grabit and have not paid for any newsbin server

So can you download without paying for a server ?

Checked out some binary grouplists do you add this to the groups on grabit ?

Any help appreciated

Mods delete if inappropriate

Cheers

jor el

You need to pay before you can download.

newzbin.com is a good place to find the nzb files which link to the downloads too. You need to pay a small fee here aswell if you want the nzbs though, but well worth it.

Irish Gunner

jor el wrote:

You need to pay before you can download.

newzbin.com is a good place to find the nzb files which link to the downloads too. You need to pay a small fee here aswell if you want the nzbs though, but well worth it.

Yeah saw this but they are accepting no more new members

When you say'worth it' is it that you get faster and better d/l than those nasty torrents ?

So if I do pay on a trial basis I just have to insert my settings into Grabit ?

When I then do a search and find the file I am looking for i right click and walla ?

Is it as simple as that ?

Was thinking of getting newsleecher as heard this is better than grabit

Then when I try it may decide to pay annual sub

DemonOfTheFall

Please go to slyck.com and read the FAQ on newsgroups.

I use www.binsearch.info for all my searching needs. Free + better than newzbin.

jor el

Irish Gunner wrote:

When you say'worth it' is it that you get faster and better d/l than those nasty torrents ?

It won't be any faster as all usenet access downloads come from a server as opposed to other people on a P2P network. The nzb is just a hand way of linking all the files you require. Any 'item' you download on senet will be broken into many parts. You can search for the individual parts of course but it's just easier this way.

You can pay for most of the news servers on a monthly basis, or for a one off limited period/ammount. I use newshosting and they're grand. Giganews is another option that I hear good things about. Easynews is best avoided I think.

Irish Gunner

Yeah have read that but looking at it from an irish view

The news servers that my ISP(Utv) offer in the top link are they useless as I cannot determine from them ?

May check out the subscription newservers but for what I d/l not sure if its worth it ?

I know of a few but wont publish them here just in case same goes for other nzb searching sites

Also may have to mess around with it but sure I will pick it up cant be that difficult can it ?

Khannie

Verging on closing this thread.

Irish Gunner

Apologies

Delete if deemed necessary

byte

jor el wrote:

Easynews is best avoided I think.

What's so bad about Easynews? I use it and never find problems.

Fighting Irish

I use astraweb(google it) $25 for 90Gb no time limit
Newzbin.com
and i use both grabit and newsbin pro

Fighting Irish

Khannie wrote:

Verging on closing this thread.

why?

RE*AC*TOR

byte wrote:

What's so bad about Easynews? I use it and never find problems.

Easynews is excellent. About 45 days retention, near 100% completion, brilliant web interface.

jor el

I had read that Easynews had poorer retention and often corrupt downloads. Though it was months ago when I first started to use usenet so a lot could have changed. Seems to have changed now according to RE*AC*TOR anyway.

DemonOfTheFall

Easynews have only about 22 days retention on their NNTP servers.
45 days on their HTTP servers though.

Completion is very very good for me from easynews, PAR files are rarely needed.

bounty

giganews is best

newshosting is ok


newzbin arnt accepting noobs anymore

Khannie

Fighting Irish wrote:

why?

Well....if we're all honest here....at the start this smells like a warez thread. Most ISP's provide basic news coverage (i.e. non-binary), and things like grabit and newsbin and newsleecher are (again, if we're honest) really only for getting illegal content off binary newsgroups.

Ponster

Boards shuts down threads that discuss warez and how to get them as they're worried that thay could be held account someday.

Some guy asking about bin newsgroups when he doesn't even mention what he's trying to download is a LONG way from someone asking about the best torrent sites.

Maybe the the OP wants to download MIDI files?
Being 'honest' and getting the thread shut down isn't useful for anyone IMHO.

Khannie

Jaysus. Take it easy. Yeah, maybe the guy does want to download midi files. And maybe all those threads about torrents are just for linux ISO's. Maybe.

The thread remains open doesn't it?

RE*AC*TOR

Ponster wrote:

Boards shuts down threads that discuss warez and how to get them as they're worried that thay could be held account someday.

Some guy asking about bin newsgroups when he doesn't even mention what he's trying to download is a LONG way from someone asking about the best torrent sites.

Maybe the the OP wants to download MIDI files?
Being 'honest' and getting the thread shut down isn't useful for anyone IMHO.

I agree. I don't think this thread has crossed the line.

But it is perhaps useful for Khannie to pre-empt andybody coming on and asking for illegal stuff etc.

Perhaps it would have been better to say he was keeping a close eye on this thread....

ShiverinEskimo

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Perhaps it would have been better to say he was keeping a close eye on this thread....

I think "verging on closing this thread" was the warning.

Only doing his job I guess - like the po-lice, they are here for our protection. :cool:

Fighting Irish

Khannie wrote:

Well....if we're all honest here....at the start this smells like a warez thread. Most ISP's provide basic news coverage (i.e. non-binary), and things like grabit and newsbin and newsleecher are (again, if we're honest) really only for getting illegal content off binary newsgroups.

who cares? nothing illegal is being discussed here, are you allowed to talk about p2p or torrents on boards?

Spunog UIE

Brief Summary as the link posted earlier covers most stuff.

Using UTV's one's may be okay, you should try them out.

There's 3 main areas you want to look at in terms of newsgroup servers.

1. Bandwidth, how fast they will let you download number of connections etc (most paid ones will more than likely max most irish broadband connections), and how much total will they let you transfer

2. Retention. This is how long they hold files, giving the massive volume of files available they will not have all the files saved forever, retention is typically from 20-50days.

3. Completion. As mentioned already larger files are broken down into split archives. eg. 700mbs as parts 1-50.rar each 14mbs. With this amount of files, some may only get half downloaded, with bits missing or lost completely. The better the provider the less likely this will be to happen.

Newsgroup providers that offer their service for free or a cheap extra will no doubt fall down on one of the above.


Now if you have your grabit/newsbin pro, you could go and download what you want. However, as their are so many posts, and sooooo many groups, you can easily download gigs and gigs of headers (info concering the post and any files) before you even come close to finding what you want. This is where NZB files come in. They work in a similar way to google, where someone indexs all the files that are posted on the newsgroups. So instead of you having to download all the crap you can type in a search and get a list of exactly what you want. The two more popular providers of this service are http://www.newzbin.com/ and http://www.binnews.com/. Newzbin is the cheapest and probally easiest to use but binnews search is as good if not better, and seen as how newzbin are not accepting new people for the time being your really only have one choice.

Newsgroup providers.

There's loads, most operate on a monthly basis.
http://easynews.com/ 8euro for 20GB or 30 days (which ever comes first)
http://www.usenetserver.com/
http://newshosting.com/

news.astraweb.com I think this one suits your typical irish user the best, given out cap. You can pay a once off 20euro for 90gigs which never expires unless you use it.

Some of the above also offer unlimited packages, but again these would still have a monthly charge, regardless of how much or little you use them.

Oh you'll also want to get QuickPar works with par/par2 files to check what you have downloaded to make sure its complete and WinRAR to extract the archives

DemonOfTheFall

Nice summary post gideon.

Khannie

Fighting Irish wrote:

who cares?

I do.

Fighting Irish wrote:

nothing illegal is being discussed here

Not directly, no. That's why the thread is still open. All that I did was issue a warning.

Fighting Irish wrote:

are you allowed to talk about p2p or torrents on boards?

Check the charter thread. Short version: Yes. Longer version: If I think that warez monkeying can be reasonably infered, I'll close the thread. I'm not here to be a knob about it (that's why I've left this thread open). It's a pain in the hole for me too. The basic jist of it is that boards.ie can't be seen to promote / endorse piracy. That's all.

RE*AC*TOR

Khannie wrote:

Check the charter thread. Short version: Yes. Longer version: If I think that warez monkeying can be reasonably infered, I'll close the thread. I'm not here to be a knob about it (that's why I've left this thread open). It's a pain in the hole for me too. The basic jist of it is that boards.ie can't be seen to promote / endorse piracy. That's all.

That's one of the more sane and rational interpretations of the situation I've heard from a mod.

Fighting Irish

Khannie wrote:

I do.



Not directly, no. That's why the thread is still open. All that I did was issue a warning.



Check the charter thread. Short version: Yes. Longer version: If I think that warez monkeying can be reasonably infered, I'll close the thread. I'm not here to be a knob about it (that's why I've left this thread open). It's a pain in the hole for me too. The basic jist of it is that boards.ie can't be seen to promote / endorse piracy. That's all.

oh right, i taught you were gonna close it just because of the basic newsgroup info, my bad, good work :cool:

FrankGrimes

Sorry for revisting an old thread, but I don't see a more recent thread around on how to use newsgroups.

I have a subscription with UsenetMonster, and found the download speeds I can get from it using GrabIt to be excellent. I have been using ngindex.com for searching for files. This site was very useful as I could seach for something, click on the record that looked relevant, and click one button to download an NZB file that would trigger GrabIt to download all relevant files, even if it had several rar and par files.

Ngindex has slowed to a halt lately so I joined up with http://www.binnews.com/ as I read it here, but I can't figure out how to get NZB files that cover all files for a particular video file. Can it be done easily?

Also, I often download stuff only to find it is not in English - is there any way to avoid this and get English only stuff?

Lastly, today my GrabIt has been acting up - files only downloading for a couple of seconds before it automatically goes on pause. Any ideas what could be causing this? I'm on NTL 6meg cable.

Thanks

Khannie

Ok, I think I can reasonably infer copyright infringement at this point. Closing this thread.