Fishy Play??? (Hand Analysis)

HauleyBear

Long time reader 1st time poster, so be gentle...:D
Interesting hand i was involved in last nite in a live Satilite for IPT Final.. €200 Freeze-out with 18 runners, 1/2 hour clock,
Prizes: 1st Ticket, 2nd €600
Hand occured with 8 left. Blinds 200-400 Avg Stack 18,000. I have 12,700

BB: 35,000
utg +2: 8,600
Button (me): 12,700

Pre flop:
Im on the button with 3s 5s, 3 limpers, i call, SB calls, BB raises 1500 more.
2 of the limpers call, i call, SB folds. Pot: 8,400

Flop:
10s 5h 4s, BB (Orginal Raiser) leads out for 3,000, utg +2 calls(1st limper), 2nd limper folds... Decision Time!!!
(i have middle pair with flush draw) My Read on situation: IMO BB was weak, small continuatioal bet for a usually Aggressive player (Also chip leader), IMO utg+2 either had the 10 (A-10), or could possible be also flushing.
After some thought, I pushed all-in, to isolate utg+2...

BB folded (A K), and utg+2 call for his remaining 3,700... with KK no spade (didnt see that hand coming..)

Turn: 5
River: blank

I take the pot with Trip 5's.. (25,000)

Would appreiated peoples opions on my play.. Both pre & post-flop..

Cheers..

sikes

i dont like calling here preflop, the initial limp is questionable but i wouldnt be calling the raise, you are commiting 1/7 of your stack with 53s. also it should also be clear that utg+2 must have something if he is commiting such a large portion of his stack. So you must assume an over pair.

on the flop:
we still however have 9spades, 2 5s and 3 3s. 14 outs 2 cards to come ~50/50.

with the amount in the pot and your read on the BB, its an easy push. i dont think you will ever find the villain having a flush draw here, but nearly always an overpair

cardshark202

Preflop: I have little problem with limping in that spot. I fold to the raise though because it's too big a percentage of my stack regardless of the pot odds.
Postflop: Standard push I think, given the pot size, I think pushing is superior to calling even though you have position.

Hectorjelly

you dont have a problem with open limping 35s on the button with 30 blinds?

cardshark202

Hectorjelly wrote:

you dont have a problem with open limping 35s on the button with 30 blinds?

Well its not optimal but its certainly not the worst part of the hand. Post edited mildly above to reflect that

Hectorjelly

cardshark202 wrote:

Well its not optimal but its certainly not thw worst part of the hand.

ignore me I didnt see the limpers

RoundTower

Fold to the raise preflop. Flop play is good.

NickyOD

I play the hand the same way. including calling the preflop raise. The bigger the stackt he raiser has the quicker I call.

sikes

given that we have put the BB on overcards and the other on a over pair, is calling the bet on the flop better in order to let the BB hit something, assuming that our pair is no good?

cardshark202

sikes wrote:

given that we have put the BB on overcards and the other on a over pair, is calling the bet on the flop better in order to let the BB hit something, assuming that our pair is no good?

No cos then we reach the turn with most of our stack in with no FE and now pot-committed on what may have turned into a bad draw.

RoundTower

sikes wrote:

given that we have put the BB on overcards and the other on a over pair, is calling the bet on the flop better in order to let the BB hit something, assuming that our pair is no good?

the BB probably has to call anyway with something like AK, he is getting an enormous price from the pot.

sikes

suppose, it was a stupid idea, though we are crippled as far the tourney goes, so if we dont improve we are dead in the water.

making up plays in my head beats studying at the moment. i assume ur the same cardshark!

HauleyBear

RoundTower wrote:

Fold to the raise preflop. Flop play is good.

My Call of raise pre-flop was boardline IMO... but i was willing to gamble a bit more as the payout was top heavy i.e 1st + 2nd....

But would players who agree with my play. Would you play the hand the same way, if the tournment was the IPT final (Early in the tornament, same blinds 200-400)...

I personally wouldnt call the reraise preflop, but would appreiate others opinions???