Help with poetry

MB44

I have been concentrating alot on all the other areas of the english course for the Lc but i have ignored the poetry. Does anyone have any good advice for learning relevant stuff for LC type questions by just using the "Poetry now" book? I no that it is short notice but there still is 2 weeks for which i can prep up on.

(honours)

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV

just study longley and hardy! they are coming up for sure.

deisedolly

ThE_IVIAcIVIAIV wrote:

just study longley and hardy! they are coming up for sure.

And what are you basing that on??

Funkstard

Longley Bishop & Plath, maybe Yeats too is what I'm studying.

All you really need to know is a personal response for each poet

MB44

i have personal responses but my teacher (being the bitch that she is ) gave me such **** grades so i cant really go by them

fatal

MB44 wrote:

i have personal responses but my teacher (being the bitch that she is ) gave me such **** grades so i cant really go by them

thats EXACTLY what has put me off poetry...i put so much effort into it but my teacher marks poetry so goddamn hard

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fatal wrote:

thats EXACTLY what has put me off poetry...i put so much effort into it but my teacher marks poetry so goddamn hard

or maybe your just pretty bad at it..... ah no i kid, yeah and you spend like two years doing it and its only worth the same as the question b on the comprehension! (which we spent all of one class doing)

Mordecai

at this stage, just narrow it down to something that will definitely come up, ie. the two women. why do you like them will get you through.

Funkstard

Is anyone else a small bit scared they'll screw us over with the irish/female poet thing this year?

nedward

Funkstard wrote:

Is anyone else a small bit scared they'll screw us over with the irish/female poet thing this year?

In a word, no. Department are s***-scared of deviation from averages.

PrettyInPunk

Funkstard wrote:

Is anyone else a small bit scared they'll screw us over with the irish/female poet thing this year?

There would be fa too many complaints..theres no way there wont be an irish poet on it.

how many poets are on the course does any one know?

Funkstard

8. 2 female, 3 Irish I think and 3 others. Is that right?

John Donne
Yeats
Michael Longley

Plath
Bishop

Hopkins
Hardy
Eliot

Dagnir Glaurung

Funkstard wrote:

8. 2 female, 3 Irish I think and 3 others. Is that right?

John Donne
Yeats
Michael Longley

Plath
Bishop

Hopkins
Hardy
Eliot

Donne wasn't Irish.

Funkstard

Well that shows i didn't study him!

ThrownAway

Funkstard wrote:

All you really need to know is a personal response for each poet

Yup also the stucture is important and ability to keep a rhythm throughout.

Funkstard

Funkstard wrote:

Is anyone else a small bit scared they'll screw us over with the irish/female poet thing this year?

the REALLY clever people* are studying the four poets that aren't irish or Female.

that means that if the Department screws the "predictors" over, then they're set, cause they'll have at least 3 poets they studied on the paper!!


* Not me

i'm doing Hardy, Plath, Eliot and Donne, with a bit o'Bishop

Orizio

Just learn 5 poets(anyone,although Longley and a female will probably pop up)with 4 poems per each poet.

20 poems over 2 weeks?Not that hard imo.

always refer to 6 poems though, literally name them...

Orizio

Sure.

4 in detail and then refer to at least 2 others in passing while analysing the other 4 poems.Or even say something on the two poems in one paragraph before the conclusion.

Oh and make sure you choose your 6 poems well.Don't simply write on the 6 easiest poems,your going to have to write on the trickier and longer poems to.Like Laertes, Ceasefire, Wounds, Wreaths, Last Requests and Self-Heal on Longley for example.

also, make sure you pick from a selection of the poets work.

you cant do Donne without doing the Terrible Sonnets

and you cant do Hardy without doing Under the Waterfall

Orizio

Donne is unlikely to come up though,and while I personally love his stuff his language seems to confuse a lot of the 'textspeak' generation.

Sticking to Bishop,Hardy,Yeats,Longley and Plath here.All easy except for Hardy,who I just plain dislike.Depressing poetry from a grim little man.

I think Hardy would have to be the most comprehnsible poet, and i find him quite easy to write on. Plath would be my favourite, and i would love a question on her.

smemon

Orizio wrote:

All easy except for Hardy,who I just plain dislike.Depressing poetry from a grim little man.

ah ah ha ha :cool:

are all of them not depressing and boring? it's poetry at the end of the day.

Rockerette

Orizio, have you read When I Set Out For Lyonnesse??

have a heart man, feel the love!

k8e

do u only hav 2 deal with 4 poems in d poetry question?
or do ya do 4 poems& mention 2 othrs??

DonaldDuck

k8e wrote:

do u only hav 2 deal with 4 poems in d poetry question?
or do ya do 4 poems& mention 2 othrs??

I was told do 3 poems in detail,but mention the other 3 at some stage

Orizio

k8e wrote:

do u only hav 2 deal with 4 poems in d poetry question?
or do ya do 4 poems& mention 2 othrs??

Da 2nd wan.

Orizio, have you read When I Set Out For Lyonnesse??

have a heart man, feel the love!

I might have felt the love if he hadn't treated both of his wifes like insects and then preceeded to right poetry about his first one only after she died through nothing more then guilt and self pity.

That nauseting little ****.

Tom65

Funkstard wrote:

8. 2 female, 3 Irish I think and 3 others. Is that right?

John Donne
Yeats
Michael Longley

Plath
Bishop

Hopkins
Hardy
Eliot

John Donne isn't Irish, as far as I'm aware.

I've learned five: Done, Yeats, Longley, Bishop and Hopkins. I don't like the idea of going into the exam with the possibility (however small) of someone I haven't studied coming up.