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How do these people get to become Pros

  • 19-05-2006 8:30am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭


    I tuned into some of the British Poker Open 2006 last night on pokerzone, or poker channel, or wherever.

    Mike "the mouth", Christy Gazes and Clowne (sp?) Gowan were all playing.
    Somewhere in the middel, this hand comes up ...

    5-handed.
    Lee Chapman (who had not played a hand since I tuned in), raises in MP (cant remember how much, but it was big enough). (with AKo)
    Gowan smooth calls on the button with AQo.

    Flop
    AK5r
    Chapman leads, for something like half pot I guess. Gowan thinks for a second ... and raises (smallish), Chapmans eyes light up, and he thinks for about 4 nano-seconds before going all-in. Gowan quickly calls.

    How the hell does she become a pro with sucky play like that?
    Jesus.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭fuzzbox


    PS - If I was chapman, I would have smooth called the raise and check/raise her all in on the turn ... just in case she laid down AQ or whatever.

    But we will let him off the hook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    With probably millions regularly playing poker worldwide, isn't it not only possible, but probable, that some individuals have just been consistently 'lucky' (or riding that wave of positive variance) for their entire poker career?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭califano


    fuzzbox wrote:
    How the hell does she become a pro with sucky play like that?
    Jesus.

    Answer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Ollieboy


    A lot of these top players have to play these tourneys due to Sponsor etc, I'm sure she had no real interest in coming all the way over to the UK to play for $100,000, when she could be playing for a million in the states etc, or could make more quicker playing cash online or in side events.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    Ollieboy wrote:
    A lot of these top players have to play these tourneys due to Sponsor etc, I'm sure she had no real interest in coming all the way over to the UK to play for $100,000, when she could be playing for a million in the states etc, or could make more quicker playing cash online or in side events.

    I don't think Clownie Gowan would be playing for that much in cash games. She's widely regarded as being a fairly poor player, and the main reason she's famous is because she won the WPT ladies night thing, which was a 6 player tournament and she got very lucky in it. I don't think she's done anything else worth talking about, and got sponsorship through Full Tilt because she's good looking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Daithio wrote:
    and got sponsorship through Full Tilt because she's good looking.

    So your saying im with a shot of getting sponsered! Nice one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭The C Kid


    Clownie Gowan is another of these superb examples of positive discrimination among sponsorship opportunists at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    "It's the easiest thing in the world, to become a professional poker player. All you have to do is quit your job."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Norwich Fan Rob


    she won "miss texan" once as well........
    and her proper first name is cyclone (clonie cause cyclone is a daft name)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭NickyOD


    RoundTower wrote:
    "It's the easiest thing in the world, to become a professional poker player. All you have to do is quit your job."

    lol! Classic RT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    fuzzbox wrote:
    I tuned into some of the British Poker Open 2006 last night on pokerzone, or poker channel, or wherever.

    I think i saw that but it was the American Poker Championships i think. I didnt see that specific hand but watched it for a few mins and saw Gowen and Matuso were playing. Could have been a different one tho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭staringelf


    fuzzbox wrote:
    I tuned into some of the British Poker Open 2006 last night on pokerzone, or poker channel, or wherever.

    Mike "the mouth", Christy Gazes and Clowne (sp?) Gowan were all playing.
    Somewhere in the middel, this hand comes up ...

    5-handed.
    Lee Chapman (who had not played a hand since I tuned in), raises in MP (cant remember how much, but it was big enough). (with AKo)
    Gowan smooth calls on the button with AQo.

    Flop
    AK5r
    Chapman leads, for something like half pot I guess. Gowan thinks for a second ... and raises (smallish), Chapmans eyes light up, and he thinks for about 4 nano-seconds before going all-in. Gowan quickly calls.

    How the hell does she become a pro with sucky play like that?
    Jesus.


    this isn't the worst play i've ever seen although it does depend on a few things. if the stacks are pretty deep its a horrible call, but if its a fairly quick structure and the blinds were high relative to her stack it mightn't be too bad (although i'm guessing the blinds were relatively low so...). do you know what the stacks and blinds were?

    gowan is pretty poor tho, i remember seeing her in some tv tournie with daniel negreanu on her left and ted forrest on her right and she made several poor plays in it. needless to say she was one of the first out at the table


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    staringelf wrote:
    this isn't the worst play i've ever seen although it does depend on a few things.

    To be honest I think it's terrible. I doubt that very few of the regulars here would go broke in that spot. I see what you're saying about the structure and all, but it's poor, poor play.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 10,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭ecksor


    gowan is pretty poor tho, i remember seeing her in some tv tournie with daniel negreanu on her left and ted forrest on her right and she made several poor plays in it. needless to say she was one of the first out at the table

    http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=15157


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭BigDragon


    She recently got caught plagarising another players article (on a diff site) about rebuy strategy in her FT 'Learn from the Pros' newsletter bolloox. Word for fecking word. Her ghost writer fcuked up lol.

    Tut tut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭staringelf


    ecksor wrote:

    my mistake, i thought i remembered her being one of the first out. she still played terrible tho, that much i'm sure of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    "well my dad siad if its a girl we"l call her cyclone and if its a boy we'l call him hurricane jackson so thank god my mum stepped in and called me cyclona! priceless... yeah Thank god cyclona phew....


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