Parking in Disabled Spaces

Siogfinsceal

Okay so while im not teh most moral person you would ever meet this is something I would never do. I just think its incredibly disrespectful.
Where I work we have a shared car park with other companies. If I park in teh wrong spot I get a warned from security. However if someone perfectly healthy parks in the one disabled spot owned by our company, nothing was said. I asked security about it and they just dont care as the spot belongs to our company they dont think he has done anything wrong.
Is it actually illegal to park in a disabled spot if you are not entitled to and is there any website that explains this law?
Thanks

Dave!

doubtful... as the security guard said, the land belongs to the company, they lay out the parking spaces, and they enforce them if needs be.

this is just assumptions though, so wait for some legal eagle to come and post before cancelling your campaign

Mossy Monk

those people should be beaten

FillSpectre

I saw somebody give out to somebody for parking in a disabled spot. WHat the person failed to do was think and look. The person who parked was in fact disabled and had a sticker and everything. The assumption that a man in a bussiness suit driving a nice new car could also have a disability never damned on the person complaining.

I think it is terrible to park in such spots but I am not going to inspect everybody I see parking in one and that is really the only way of knowing.

Siogfinsceal

I know the guy who was parked in it yesterday he has no sticker and certainly no disability of any sort. it simply was too much effort for him to park slightly further away and walk over to the building

Tobias Greeshman

I'd imagine since the spaces belong to the company it's up to them to enforce the law. Is there any disabled people in your company? Have you asked your company what's their stance on someone parking in one of their disabled spaces?

Terry

sometimes i park in handicap spaces, while handicapped people make handicapped faces.

seriously though, i see it all the time in the supermarket car park. people just don't give a damn.

a friend of mine left his car outside the pub one night in a disabled spot. he came out to find a fine for €19 on the window.

Siogfinsceal

i plan to address HR about it allright. Im just sussing out if they are actually breaking the law as that would be a great point to bring to them

Stephen

A local supermarket/small shopping centre has a nice large car park with room for several hundred cars, with about 10 of the spaces right outside the door. Half of these (the ones closest to the door) are designated for disabled parking, but every time I'm there, there's nearly always some pr1ck in a 4x4 or a van parked in the disabled spots.
That kind of behaviour pisses me right off.

Dave!

julep wrote:

sometimes i park in handicap spaces, while handicapped people make handicapped faces.

seriously though, i see it all the time in the supermarket car park. people just don't give a damn.

a friend of mine left his car outside the pub one night in a disabled spot. he came out to find a fine for €19 on the window.

probably worth paying that, for the convenience, heh

Robbo

Parking in disabled spaces is wrong.

However, show no mercy to "Mother and Toddler" or "Expectant Mother" spaces, they're the result of the sly thinking of marketing boys who want us to accept and cherish a phalanx of little hellians marauding around a supermarket with their matriarch powerless and indifferent to them bouncing off other people's trolleys.

Big Nelly

Siogfinsceal wrote:

i plan to address HR about it allright. Im just sussing out if they are actually breaking the law as that would be a great point to bring to them

Plan to address HR about what? because you got a warning for parking in a wrong spot? damn right, your company pays for parking spots and you go off then and park where ever you like???? you probably dont even need a car for your job?? do you???

How do you know this guy hasnt been given permission to park in that spot? maybe there is no disable employee in the company so the spot was being wasted, the company was paying for it so why not use it? you will probably find that for the number of parking spots the company has there is alot more people driving in and trying to get those spots. Most of the ones getting the spots as well I bet dont need there car, its the same where I work

Siogfinsceal

oh hello did you even read my post before running your mouth off?? I parked in the wrong spot ages ago once and got a warning have no problem with that its a fair enough policy at the time the spots were new and not clearly marked.
The issue I plan to address with HR is that people are constantly parking in the one spot reserved for disabled people which I find unacceptable. If someone who actually is disabled shows up will we just ask them to park round the back?! I have spoken to security and they have informed me that none o fthe frequent offenders that park in this spot possess a sticker or are disabled - they are simply too lazy to park a little further away from the door.

Ickle Magoo

As far as I know unless the parking space is on public property and therefor falls under the juristiction of the parking wardens then it is up to the people who own the carpark to police it....

It's wrong of people to park in disabled spots without badges but the spaces in supermarkets and in other private carparks are courtesy spots, they are not required by law and so no law is broken if an able bodied person parks in them.....:(

Ruu_Old

I think the fine for parking in a disabled spot here in the US is $250, along with a boot up the backside probably. Im not sure how well its enforced in Ireland. Yeah its wrong but people do it anyway, "ah waz only goin into da shop for a minnit!"

Litcagral

Siogfinsceal wrote:

I know the guy who was parked in it yesterday he has no sticker and certainly no disability of any sort. it simply was too much effort for him to park slightly further away and walk over to the building

Although he may be inconsiderate, he is not doing anything illegal as the space is on private property. It is up to the company to enforce their parking policies. Some conpanies utilise the services of private clampers while others place very adhesive notices on the windows, which are very difficult to remove.

Big Nelly

Siogfinsceal wrote:

oh hello did you even read my post before running your mouth off?? I parked in the wrong spot ages ago once and got a warning have no problem with that its a fair enough policy at the time the spots were new and not clearly marked.
The issue I plan to address with HR is that people are constantly parking in the one spot reserved for disabled people which I find unacceptable. If someone who actually is disabled shows up will we just ask them to park round the back?! I have spoken to security and they have informed me that none o fthe frequent offenders that park in this spot possess a sticker or are disabled - they are simply too lazy to park a little further away from the door.

Do you need a car for work??

If a disable driver shows up Im sure that the car park is private and he would not be allowed into the car park? is there enough spaces in the car park?

To me it sounds like sour grapes, you got a sticker on your car for parking in the wrong spot so your on a witch hunt now to try and get every other driver in the car park.

Siogfinsceal

have you got a problem ? you keep harping on to the fact that I once got a sticker which is rather irrelevant. The only reason that I mentioned the warning/sticker is because its a good way of stopping people parking where they shouldnt so I feel it should also be done when people park in a disabled apot. My reasoning is not down to 'sour grapes' as you suggest, but actually to do with the fact that I have a friend and relatives who are disabled (im sure we all know someone), and I think its sad that people can't have the decency to leave one parking space free (esp where there only is one) in order for them to have easy access to a building.

Big Nelly

Siogfinsceal wrote:

have you got a problem ? you keep harping on to the fact that I once got a sticker which is rather irrelevant. The only reason that I mentioned the warning/sticker is because its a good way of stopping people parking where they shouldnt so I feel it should also be done when people park in a disabled apot. My reasoning is not down to 'sour grapes' as you suggest, but actually to do with the fact that I have a friend and relatives who are disabled (im sure we all know someone), and I think its sad that people can't have the decency to leave one parking space free (esp where there only is one) in order for them to have easy access to a building.

Well I think it is sour grapes or being a busy body or watever you want to call it, you have been cleary told by security this is not an issue so you throw a strop and head off to HR. You have nothing better to do in the office?

Again do you need a car for work? from they way you keep overlooking the question I guess you don't. Is there enough spots in the car park? is the car park private?

This is not a public car park so the rules are different, I have no problem if you where complaining at the front of a shop etc where the general public have to use the car park but this is an office and most offices that own there own spaces and have security means that is it a private car park not open to the general public.

Again if there isnt enough car park spots because people who dont need there car drive in then why leave a space sitting that nobody in the office will use? it makes no sense.

Siogfinsceal

have you got a problem ? you keep harping on to the fact that I once got a sticker which is rather irrelevant. The only reason that I mentioned the warning/sticker is because its a good way of stopping people parking where they shouldnt so I feel it should also be done when people park in a disabled apot. My reasoning is not down to 'sour grapes' as you suggest, but actually to do with the fact that I have a friend and relatives who are disabled (im sure we all know someone), and I think its sad that people can't have the decency to leave one parking space free (esp where there only is one) in order for them to have easy access to a building.

Siogfinsceal

whether or not I need a car for work (which I do ) is of no relevance what so ever. if you cannot post anything related to the actual issues here then please stop posting in my thread goodbye

Siogfinsceal

fyi there are plenty of spaces in the car park these people are just too lazy to walk from those spaces. Maybe at some stage in your life you yopurself may be so unfortunate to be disabled - might shake up your bad attitude

FX Meister

Sure they hand out those disabled permits to loads of goons who don't really need them or else needed them at one stage, don't need them now but still use them. I managed to "acquire" one and use it all the time. Not to park in disabled psrking spots but just regular metered parking spots and I just don't have to pay. I've saved a fortune with it so far and no worries about getting back to the car in time. The permit was only needed for a short time yet it's valid until 2008.

WallysWorld

Robbo wrote:

However, show no mercy to "Mother and Toddler" or "Expectant Mother" spaces, they're the result of the sly thinking of marketing boys who want us to accept and cherish a phalanx of little hellians marauding around a supermarket with their matriarch powerless and indifferent to them bouncing off other people's trolleys.

Reminds me of the time myself and my Dad parked in a mother and child space in a van, some woman decided to take issue with this and when Dad got out she started roaring at him, Dad just looked nonplussed and said 'but Im a father with a child' and pointed at me (bearing in mind that Im 20 and a fair bit taller than him!) it shut her up for ohh about 3 seconds before she went back into her diatribe.

FX Meister

I always park in those parent and child spots. Any crap from anyone and I just say I'm picking my kid up or just dropped him off. They never had them when I was a child so I'm claiming it back now.

le-dub

Siogfinsceal wrote:

I know the guy who was parked in it yesterday he has no sticker and certainly no disability of any sort. it simply was too much effort for him to park slightly further away and walk over to the building

Why dont you write a little note and leave it on his car, just dont get caught...

chuckles30

My brother lives in Scotland and you actually have to have a special sticker to park in the parent and child spots there. They got one recently when they had their baby and it is enforced. Also their spaces are actually bigger which is really necessary when trying to get the car seat out of the car. I think these spaces and spaces for disabled should be respected. The rest of us are lucky enough to have the use of our legs and in most cases there are plenty of parking spaces, but people are just too lazy to walk the few extra steps. Everyone just wants to be parked by the door.

Snake Plisken

Ah a subject that wrecks my head, I hate Scangers and scumbags who park in Mother and Toddler spots in Liffey Valley, They all get the evil Snake eye from me. Friend of mine has a disabled child and he will give out ****e to you and report you to the store management if he finds you parked in a disabled zone! Its usually scangers or Non-nationals who do it.

Snake

franksm

Go for it, Siogfinsceal, I made the same complaint to Security here at MS as people were parking stupidly, despite the carpark being huge. They started clamping people at one stage - not to collect money, but just to inconvenience them.

In general, I tend to see abuse of HC-space at LIDL for some reason. Their carparks are never ever full, yet you see gobshytes sitting waiting in the HC-spaces all the time.

I have given out to security dudes at Superquinn in Blanchardstown as they don't give a toss about people parking in the spaces there. Gets my goat up.

CathyMoran

If I see someone parking in the disabled spots without a permit I normally report them to management, it really gets on my nerves when it happens. Disabled spaces are there for a reason - my mum has severe walking difficulties and these spaces normally allow more room for a wheelchair and are closer to the entrance. If nothing else from a moral point of view they should be kept clear for appropriate users. 2 years ago my mum was fully able bodied, you never know if it might happen to you.

Hermione*

It's always annoyed me as well, even before my parents had to acquire a permit for my sister who was in a wheelchair temporarily (we didn't know it would be temporary).

At Christmas, Dad parked in the disabled spot beside the supermarket cos the wheelchair embarrassed her a lot (understandably imo) and she wanted to get into the car as soon as she could so as not to be seen in it. We didn't have the permit at the time, but we had applied for it a few weeks previously and were waiting for it to come in the post. Some random scobe shouted at my Dad across the street for being parked there without a permit, and my Dad responded would he like to come over and inspect the wheelchair in the boot of the car. Dad was really upset by the incident; when a member of your family suffers such significant injuries you don't need that type of unprovoked aggression.

Admittedly we didn't have the permit but as I tried to point out to the interfering fucker, we had applied for it. The fact that we didn't have it at that point in time made little difference to my sister's inability to walk.

It's just so inconsiderate to do that. Some people really genuinely need those spaces. If I saw somebody parked in a disabled spot, I'd report them too.

Umiq88

Could this be like that thing dunno what its called but say you get put in prison for a crime you didnt commit lets say murder and you served your sentence and then you got out your "entitled" to murder that person because you've served your time (i know thats not right but technically speaking)

Would this be the case that if someone parks in a disabled spot you have the right to "disable" them (like with a baseball bat)

Oh found out its called double jeopardy