How big are your crown jewels?

willis

VC $25 freezout, 4 handed. Blinds 2/4k, you have 66k and your bb.SB(Villain has same, other 2 have 110k and 45k respectively.

Folded to sb who limps. He hasnt been afraid pushing allin(hes a scandie!) or raising so his limp seems weak but i have been so aggressive that he could be trapping. I check with J2. The flop is 643, ALL diamond, you have no diamond. He min bets 4k, you decide to call. The turn is an 8, he bets 4k, you decide to make it 14k to see how he likes his hand. He calls. The river is a Fourth Diamond, he dwells before checking.

Can you find a bet into a 44k pot with just 30k left or do you just check behind? Any comments on my play in hand appreciated.

Hectorjelly

All in! you cant spend a hand setting up a bluff and then chicken out on the river! I would personally not of bluffed on this board, but I like the play of the hand apart from that.

The Snapper

from the title and tone of the post I think yours are as big as Bengali Tigers. You pushed he folded like a little girl ? Nice result poor play imho.

i have been so aggressive that he could be trapping.

Usually when we ignore our instincts we pay the price. Well I frequently do :eek:

RoundTower

I don't really like it, I think a lot of the time he has something like 95 with the nine of diamonds and will make a crying call. It would be much different if you had called the turn, he bet the river and you moved in (not that I think this is a good line).

I don't agree with what Hector says about setting up a bluff and not continuing with it. The raise on the turn isn't just to set up a bluff, it is to win the pot straight away.

Gholimoli

ok i make plays like this all the time and sometimes it workes and others it dosent.
at this time IMO you have commited too many chips to the pot and you should do eveything to take the pot.
if that means commiting even more chips then so be it ,unless tou actually dont think there is any chance you can take the pot in which case committing more chips is stupid.
if i played the hand the same as you did,i would go all in when SB checked.
he may call but chances are more often than not he will not.
if he had a decent dimon or a decent hand he would have either bet for value or make a blocking bet here so his check indicates either a trap or a no dimond hand.

Hectorjelly

RoundTower wrote:

The raise on the turn isn't just to set up a bluff, it is to win the pot straight away.

Against loose opponenents like you find on average on vc, one street bluffs dont really work. You need to really convince them their hand is no good, and often also wait to the river so they can miss their draws. Raising the turn on its own here is definitely - ev if you chk the river because the ace of diamonds isnt going anywhere.

willis

Ty for replies and comments guys. Of course you are all right saying i should of pushed the river. I chickened out here and he had K6 with no diamond!I just coulsnt see how he called the turn without a diamond, but at the same time I dont know why i didnt push as usually im only to happy pushing in on a bluff here. I definitely push on any non-diamond river here but couldnt find the guts to push with the diamond. Ah well, ya learn from mistakes. The turn bet was setting up the bluff but was also in the hope of taking it down there and then btw.

Daithio

I would have thought the diamond was more of a reason to push? He can only call a push holding 3 maybe 4 particular cards in his hand, whereas on a non diamond river he can call a bet with a much bigger range. He played it terribly btw.

ntlbell

Daithio wrote:

I would have thought the diamond was more of a reason to push? He can only call a push holding 3 maybe 4 particular cards in his hand, whereas on a non diamond river he can call a bet with a much bigger range. He played it terribly btw.

I was thinking exactly the same

I like your play up to the river tho, it's something I do alot (Burns me alot too)

What made the hand alot more difficult was you were playing a moron.

Norwich Fan Rob

after u reraise the turn here, he never checks a big diamond on the river.......auto push, he HATES the river.