Disgraceful sectarianism

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 4:47pm #1

We thought sectarianism in the north was abating!? (just to let you know this link has VERY strong language) http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=156959350

This is unbelievable, look at how young the age profile of those posters are. Their schoolkids! I genuinely beleived we had left this behind but now it seems a new generation of young ppl in the north are being corrupted by sectarianism and out and out rascism. The disturbing murder of the Catholic schoolboy in Ballymena has allowed tensions to flare again. I find some comments recently from both sides very disturbing. Ive come to the conclusion that the North has entred the hopeless stage.:(

Manolo Blahnik · 14-05-2006 4:57pm

All the hate.

The people who commented on him with nasty remarks are just as bad.

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 5:05pm

Manolo Blahnik wrote:

All the hate.

The people who commented on him with nasty remarks are just as bad.

There were comments from that particular site from Kids as young as 14 boasting that a Catholic had been murdered. Such hard men behind their keyboards:mad:

hullaballoo · 14-05-2006 5:13pm

Not that I think it's appropriate to offer a child psychology lesson, but children always need something to identify with, and in the North, many otherwise decent kids get involved with a lot of this sort of sectarianism. I'd imagine that if their parents saw that they'd hit the roof. Don't worry, most of them will grow out of it.

Edit: Wait a second. Did this guy kill someone? If he did, then he deserves every bit of that abuse. What a fcuking dickhead.

fade2black · 14-05-2006 5:15pm

Haha...Christopher Kerr has a head for smacking. Look at the stupid pic....This bebo thing is way over my head.

hullaballoo · 14-05-2006 5:35pm

I genuinely can't work out if he actually did it or not. It's weird!

New_Departure06 · 14-05-2006 5:46pm

The sectarianism is a legacy of a political system, which for so long was based on the idea that you only had rights if you were Protestant. While this is being dismantled, there are those who refuse to move with the times and insist on clinging on to sectarian hatreds that ultimately stem from a Master Race thesis which regards Irish Catholics as deserving only second-class status in terms of rights. The was the ideology of the British state in Ireland for centuries, but just because that has been fading for a fair while now doesn't yet mean this has filtered through to those who were historically encouraged by that State to oppress the native Irish Catholics.

A Dub in Glasgo · 14-05-2006 5:51pm

He has been charged with murdering the 15 year old school boy. Him and another mate boasted about doing the deed on his bebo page, that is why the comments are so invective

The Clown Man · 14-05-2006 6:01pm

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=285958052

This seems to be the page of the kid who was killed. The flash is very nice.

I actually got there by clicking into one of the killers friends to see if they were getting the same abuse just for being there and I find that the victim was a friend of hers too.

AngelofFire · 14-05-2006 6:18pm

but just because that has been fading for a fair while now doesn't yet mean this has filtered through to those who were historically encouraged by that State to oppress the native Irish Catholics

Your correct about the appauling descrimination visited upon Catholics by the N.I. government. But your post seems to imply that protestants aren`t native, can you please clarify your remarks.

zuma · 14-05-2006 6:35pm

AngelofFire wrote:

Your correct about the appauling descrimination visited upon Catholics by the N.I. government. But your post seems to imply that protestants aren`t native, can you please clarify your remarks.

Good luck on trying to get that!

fade2black · 14-05-2006 6:41pm

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=492873783

Another one them it would seem.

zuma · 14-05-2006 6:44pm

How many were arrested?

Well it appears these two are getting a LOT of attention!!!

Am I the only person finding it difficult to read their comments....they have a keyboard to use after all!!!

fade2black · 14-05-2006 6:47pm

One of the comments:

am a catholic too gon murder me n c wat u get!!!!!! *** u. ****

fade2black · 14-05-2006 6:57pm

Have to say I'm finding this all very intriguing. This is pretty much my first experience of bebo...

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=469748111 This guy is a friend of Micky's and seems to be a brother of one of the alledged attackers...

zuma · 14-05-2006 6:57pm

fade2black wrote:

One of the comments:

A follwed some of the posters from the 2 alleged murders pages and just saw more hatefull comments!

Scary stuff allright and it will take generations to heal the rift which currently exists between Nationalists/Republicans and Unionists/Loyalists!!!!

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 6:59pm

fade2black wrote:

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=492873783

Another one them it would seem.

Twisted, the whole lot of them.

New_Departure06 · 14-05-2006 7:04pm

AngelofFire wrote:

Your correct about the appauling descrimination visited upon Catholics by the N.I. government. But your post seems to imply that protestants aren`t native, can you please clarify your remarks.

I was referring to a timespan over centuries, when most of the Protestants on this island would have been English and Scottish people. While in the South, I have no problem seeing Protestants born here as "native", I find it harder with regard to most Northern Protestants - not for sectarian reasons on my part - but because they have always maintained their "Britishness" ina very in your face way. In a UI, I would accept them as part of the Irish nation, provided they do not actively oppose the State by violent means. I would have no hesitation in regarding Northern Protestants who support a United Ireland, such as Stephen Rea and Tom Paulin, as "native" because they are not part of this mindset. But if someone does not even feel Irish, then how can I be expected to regard them as being native Irish?

The Northern Unionist community largely seem to regard themselves as Eternal Planters, and the Catholics as the "natives".

I hope I've clarified my position AngelofFire.

oscarBravo · 14-05-2006 7:14pm

New_Departure06 wrote:

I hope I've clarified my position AngelofFire.

It's perfectly clear to me. You need a dictionary.

Boston · 14-05-2006 7:17pm

I noticed they all seemed to have gone to the same school at some stage. it would be nice to know what actually happened. It's fairly sad and weird watching all this bebo stuff.

GrumPy · 14-05-2006 7:23pm

Excuse my ignorance, it seems ive been living uunder a rock, but what actually happened, and when?

A Dub in Glasgo · 14-05-2006 7:38pm

Some backround here and here

GAAman · 14-05-2006 7:41pm

A 15 year old lad was killed basically for being catholic by ignorant wankstains. The first link on the first page of this thread is the guy who was charged with the murder. The second guy charged is further down the page (not sure what link sorry) but to make matters worse they had bragged on their bebo pages of carrying out the act

If you check out the links you can see the general hatred for them through comments on their pages (alot of these comments were left when they had the info up they have taken it down now)

fade2black · 14-05-2006 7:48pm

Have the braggings been removed?

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 7:48pm

New_Departure06 wrote:

I was referring to a timespan over centuries, when most of the Protestants on this island would have been English and Scottish people. While in the South, I have no problem seeing Protestants born here as "native", I find it harder with regard to most Northern Protestants - not for sectarian reasons on my part - but because they have always maintained their "Britishness" ina very in your face way. In a UI, I would accept them as part of the Irish nation, provided they do not actively oppose the State by violent means. I would have no hesitation in regarding Northern Protestants who support a United Ireland, such as Stephen Rea and Tom Paulin, as "native" because they are not part of this mindset. But if someone does not even feel Irish, then how can I be expected to regard them as being native Irish?

The Northern Unionist community largely seem to regard themselves as Eternal Planters, and the Catholics as the "natives".

I hope I've clarified my position AngelofFire.

This is the one thing that really annoys me up there with regard to some of the protestants. Their not even bloody Irish, their ancestors were planted up there from Scotland. Paisley for example, a feckin Scottish county! I mean they enjoy acting like d**kheads most of the time not even acknowledging that they were born on the Island of Ireland......Instead they want to be called 'Ulster feckin Scots' - what the hell does that mean. And lets not forget the sly form of ethnic cleansing of the natives these 'Ulster scots' got up to in the late sixties burning their Catholic neighbours out and the Catholics having to flee down here as refugees. I mean the bastardness of it all is unreal.

Just had to get that off my chest;)

cil_aine · 14-05-2006 7:55pm

c'mon now, at the end of the day a kids dead leave all the "we were/n't here first **** for another time.

A Dub in Glasgo · 14-05-2006 7:56pm

fade2black wrote:

Have the braggings been removed?

Yes and the PSNI are investigating the braggings. Whether all this bebo thing comes out in court is another matter. I surprised bebo has not pulled the pages of the guys charged with the murder.

SeanW · 14-05-2006 7:58pm

Yeah, every post in there seems to be some variation of 1337speak.

fade2black · 14-05-2006 7:58pm

Do you have a link to the info about the chargings?

GAAman · 14-05-2006 8:04pm

http://www.itn.co.uk/news/111820.html

this link is a bit old but i thought it should be included as it contains information about the killing itself

looking for links about the charges now

edit: found a link or two no names bein mentioned though sure they cant if one of the accused is 15

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=690418

gonna include this last link as it contains information which truly portrays the ignorance of his killers will let you read it for yourself

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2091-2179649,00.html

Mossy Monk · 14-05-2006 8:07pm

so much hate. those guys probably wont even see it anyway

joebhoy1916 · 14-05-2006 8:22pm

And lets not forget the sly form of ethnic cleansing of the natives these 'Ulster scots' got up to in the late sixties burning their Catholic neighbours out and the Catholics having to flee down here as refugees. I mean the bastardness of it all is unreal.

QUOTE]

So true shame people down here though cant seem to
remember what them sh!ts done to our country and
our people the truth is people down here
never fcuking cared what
happened up there and still dont.

Shame really

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 8:35pm

Eh lets not forget what the SF/IRA thugs get up to aswell. Both as bad as the other.

GAAman · 14-05-2006 8:49pm

have to disagree with you there darkman two forms of information for you to read (if you interested of course)

as joebhoy said the ulster scots campaign but also

http://www.rte.ie/tv/reelingintheyears/1971.html

and this book really opens your eyes to what it was like back then too its mainly the hunger strikers in long kesh but there is a fair bit of info bout what it was like livin under an almost nazi regime

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904301673/qid%3D1147639463/026-1975016-4814802

joebhoy1916 · 14-05-2006 8:54pm

darkman2 wrote:

Eh lets not forget what the SF/IRA thugs get up to aswell. Both as bad as the other.

When was the last time the IRA kill someone?

If it wasn't for everything the british done the IRA wouldn't
of being around! Do you forget they were defending catholics
when nobody else gave a sh!t about them.

Bloody Sunday, Internment without trial
(I could go on) all of these
were the best thing that happened to the IRA because
it gave them the support.

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 9:10pm

Yes and the criminality we have ongoing? Which among other things involves importing drugs, racketeering and the occasional bank robbery.

joebhoy1916 · 14-05-2006 9:16pm

darkman2 wrote:

Yes and the criminality we have ongoing? Which among other things involves importing drugs, racketeering and the occasional bank robbery.

OMG your talking out your arse.

Who was arrested for the bank robbery
that was in the IRA?

If you knew anything you would know the IRA
knee cap drug dealers did you ever DAAD?

You know nothing.

darkman2 · 14-05-2006 9:23pm

joebhoy1916 wrote:

OMG your talking out your arse.

Who was arrested for the bank robbery
that was in the IRA?

If you knew anything you would know the IRA
knee cap drug dealers did you ever DAAD?

You know nothing.

The IRA is involved in big time criminality. Im saying that as a nationalist because it is true. To suggest other wise is to look at the 'Republican movement' through green tinted spectacles.

14-05-2006 9:27pm

Right guys

Thread locked

Be civil when/if participating in the other threads here or I will have to get out my banning stick.

Disgraceful sectarianism

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