Akercócke

Karl Hungus

Hmm, anyone else here like these guys? I think they're quite excellent.

If you've not heard of them, they sound something like a cross between Rush and Deicide.

Have a look at their video for the song Leviathan, which is probably one of their most accessible tracks. You can also listen to some more of their stuff here.

Beekay

I seen them live at Download 04,although i didn't know any of there stuff so it wasn't the most exciting.

i'll give them a listen

Timans

Just listened now. I like the band but the singer is awful in my opinion. Too many bands are ruined by the singer in my opinion and they are definitly one of them.

Karl Hungus

I think Jason is a fantastic vocalist. Each to their own though.

Timans

Yeah, exactly. I really like the music though. Shame.

Karl Hungus

Out of curiosity, what is it you don't like about the vocals? Is it the more Death Metal style vocals, or the clean operatic style?

Timans

I don't like the way he sings in such a "deep" voice if you get me? Like, i don't mean deep but the style. I like a more clean voice. Something I can actually think "wow, what an amazing voice" a powerful voice. I love Eddie Vedder's voice for example. I know it's a different style of voice.

I don't like the way alot of metal bands seem to have the same kind of vocals. Also, with the mentioned band. I think it sounds as though he is putting on that deep voice. I know he is not. But, to me, It sounds that way.

I ain't an avid metal fan, so, I am no expert. Could you reccomend me some metal bands with a great voice, technically (Cornell,Vedder,Plant) if you get me? I know i am probably making no sense what so ever but, I really like the metal instrumentals but I find the singing usually wrecks the band for me.

John

The first album was OK but they never really did much for me

Karl Hungus

I get you Timans. Each to their own really.

Timans

Thanks for accepting me Karl.

Any reccomendations?

Patricide

O i love this band, couldnt remember there name for a while, i always remember em for that video, metal with parker fly's and suits whod have thnk it?

On another note, LONG LIVE SATIRYICON(i know ive spelled it wrong but god dam i cant remember how to spell it.

Karl Hungus

Parker Fly's rock man! Probably the more versatile guitars in the world.

And it's Satyricon.

Barry.S

Timans wrote:

Thanks for accepting me Karl.

Any reccomendations?

I'd have to say Iron Maiden.
Not really the same kind of vocals as Vedder or Plant, Vedder probably being my favourite vocalist, but Bruce Dickinson sings in a clean voice and really is a very good vocalist. And the band are great all round too;)

Per Liefsonson

I think Akercocke are fantastic. I have "Choronzon" and it's definitely one of the best death metal albums I have. They never fail to make interesting, brutal stuff it would seem.

Timans

Barry.S wrote:

I'd have to say Iron Maiden.
Not really the same kind of vocals as Vedder or Plant, Vedder probably being my favourite vocalist, but Bruce Dickinson sings in a clean voice and really is a very good vocalist. And the band are great all round too;)

Thanks for the reply mate.

I really don't like Iron Maiden. They have a few great songs that I would listen to and I have their Greatest Hits on my iPod but, I find them quite boring and repetitive. I'm hard to please :P

LightofDarkness

I really like Akercocke. Good stuff all round, it's hard to fault. It's always very well put together (especially the last two albums) and while interesting and new it sounds comfortable and sounds "right", even though it's not playing from a blueprint you've ever heard before.

Barry.S

Timans wrote:

Thanks for the reply mate.

I really don't like Iron Maiden. They have a few great songs that I would listen to and I have their Greatest Hits on my iPod but, I find them quite boring and repetitive. I'm hard to please :P

Np mate. lol well...
Maybe try Katatonia then, not such an amazing voice, but some good clean vocals and a good band imo.
Mikael Akerfeldt from Opeth has a great clean voice, although this is only heard on their acoustic songs mostly.
Also, Black Sabbath! I like Ozzy's voice, kinda strikes me as unique, even though imo the lyrics are sometimes a bit iffy and simple.
Hopefully one of those bands might please you

Karl Hungus

Lads, can we keep the recommendations to another thread, perhaps? You're dragging this one way off topic.

Timans, start a new thread asking for recommendations, ok?

Timans

Alright, Sorry about this Karl. Didn't even mean for it to go this far.

Anyway, Will do.

nosmo

Karl Hungus wrote:

Leviathan, which is probably one of their most accessible tracks.

I heard the Goat of Mendes and really liked it, then I saw the video for Leviathan and I was completely thrown off, no screaming and video booty. Confusing altogether, then I heard the album version of the song, much more like the band I knew.
Overall, very atmospheric stuff, especially around the Goat.. period, but the Choronzon-ish stuff is much much more composed and powerful as opposed to the more raw approach of the aforementioned
Enraptured by Evil is one hell of a song too .

Karl Hungus

Finally got around to getting "Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone" today.

Awesome album altogether. Verdelet is one astonishing song.

Den_M

That song on Youtube is definetly 'friendlier' than the last song I heard by Ackercocke, in the one I heard the vocalist sounded like pitbulls were relieving him of his testicles.
This one was like a sub-par Nevermore tune IMO..

Karl Hungus

Den_M wrote:

This one was like a sub-par Nevermore tune IMO..

I'm a big fan of Nevermore, but Akercócke don't sound at all like them.

Den_M

Definetly not! It was just this particular song, the singing really, that put that comparison in my head..
The video looks a tiny bit like the one for Final Product as well.
I like Ackercocke overall though, but I prefer their heavier, scarier side.

Karl Hungus

Den_M wrote:

Definetly not! It was just this particular song, the singing really, that put that comparison in my head..
The video looks a tiny bit like the one for Final Product as well.
I like Ackercocke overall though, but I prefer their heavier, scarier side.

I'd really like to know what you're smoking. I just stuck on the Final Product video, and besides the fact that they've both metal bands, I see absolutely no similarity whatsoever.

As for the singing, I'd say that Warrel Dane of Nevermore sounds more like Matt Barlow of Iced Earth (Example) than Jason Mendonca.

Den_M

The video of Final Product I saw was really low resolution, maybe that explains my Mr. Magoo-ism..

Beer is Life

Karl Hungus wrote:

Finally got around to getting "Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone" today.

Awesome album altogether. Verdelet is one astonishing song.

I got that album 2 weeks ago and its barely left my cd player since. Not generally my type of music but I took a gamble and it paid off. Love when that happens!

Are past releases like this album or what?

Edit: One thing that annoyed me though was the drumming. First of all I think its pretty awful. The bass drum sound really gets on my tits and I think the drummer is terrible! But I really enjoyed everything else

cournioni

I have "Words That Go Unspoken, Deeds That Go Undone" and "Chronozon", I have to say I really like some of the stuff like "Verdelet", "Seduced", "Leviathan" and "Enraptured By Evil" but others tend to bore me. I'll try to get listening to it some more before I'll make a judgement.

Karl Hungus

Beer is Life wrote:

I got that album 2 weeks ago and its barely left my cd player since. Not generally my type of music but I took a gamble and it paid off. Love when that happens!

Are past releases like this album or what?

All I can say is, give 'em a listen. Their older stuff is fairly rough, and there's definetly a musical progression and the overall sound became a lot more refined in their last two albums, but I'd still say the first two are well worth getting, they're some excellent songs on offer and some amazing musicality.

Beer is Life wrote:

Edit: One thing that annoyed me though was the drumming. First of all I think its pretty awful. The bass drum sound really gets on my tits and I think the drummer is terrible! But I really enjoyed everything else

I think he's an excellent drummer, but I know what you mean about the bass drum sound.

Beer is Life

Karl Hungus wrote:

I think he's an excellent drummer, but I know what you mean about the bass drum sound.

Well my main gripe is he over does it most of the time. Not saying hes a bad drummer talent wise, its his choice of beats that lets him down big time. He goes WAY over the top on several occassions where a much simpler beat would have done the job very nicely. I do like when a drummer gets a bit adventurous, but not in this guys case.

Am I making too much of it? Probably

Karl Hungus

Beer is Life wrote:

Well my main gripe is he over does it most of the time. Not saying hes a bad drummer talent wise, but his choice of beats leaves alot to be disired. He goes WAY over the top on several occassions where a much simpler beat would have done the job very nicely. I do like when a drummer gets a bit adventurous, but not in this guys case.

Am I making too much of it? Probably

No, you're not making too much of it. It's interesting to discuss these things.

Anyway, I think I understand what you mean when you say he goes over the top, like when he's playing a blastbeat but the riffs might be very slow/chilled. But I do actually like that kind of thing a lot myself, such as at the end of Verdelet where there's the clean notes ringing out over blasting. It can sound very interesting and disjointed.

I think another example of that kind of thing would be the song Master's Apprentices by Opeth, where there's a blastbeat and a much slower riff. It's like two different textures playing off each other, and the sound is just monolithic! Or at least I think so.

Beer is Life

Karl Hungus wrote:

like when he's playing a blastbeat but the riffs might be very slow/chilled.

Thats exactly what I mean, beats that dont suit the rest of the song.

Karl Hungus wrote:

It can sound very interesting and disjointed.

Thats an interesting way to look at it alright, but in this case I dunno, it doesnt work for me

For me, it would have worked better if the drums accentuated what the rest of the band were doing instead of going on with a blast beat. A blast beat is a fairly boring choice aswell when the drums are standing out like that.

Karl Hungus

Ah well, I like that style a lot, so what can I say?

haunted-room

I bought the newest record because I heard the first track and I loved it immediately. Hower, I didnt like the rest of the album at all!
Why does that always happen?

Numina

I love Akercocke, one of my favorite bands.....all that needs to be said really.

Shiminay

I saw Akercocke in TBMC a few years back with Sikth, thought cock was pretty much the right word for it. Wasn't feeling it at all. Having seen the discussion, I might give them another trial.

006

how do you prononce akercocke

Karl Hungus

Kharn wrote:

I saw Akercocke in TBMC a few years back with Sikth, thought cock was pretty much the right word for it. Wasn't feeling it at all. Having seen the discussion, I might give them another trial.

I was very sorry I missed that gig. In the UK, Akercocke supported Opeth, which quite frankly would have been one ****ing awesome gig beyond measure. You should definetly give them another go.

herobear

006 wrote:

how do you prononce akercocke

hackercocker(but the h is silent, and the r at the end is not very pronounced)

nosmo

Karl Hungus wrote:

I was very sorry I missed that gig. In the UK, Akercocke supported Opeth, which quite frankly would have been one ****ing awesome gig beyond measure. You should definetly give them another go.

I can't remember where I read it, but in a review of that particular gig the writer struck upon something that's kinda true:
"Can they write a chorus without it featuring the word Satan?"

Numina

Finally picked up "Words That Go Unspoken..." and I must say, even though I'm not too partial to other metal bands in the league of Akercocke (even though they are pretty much in a league of their own), this album is insane, ESPECIALLY Shelter From The Sand, the serene-type interlude, and then this crazy electronic synth, and then back to the metal. Genius!

Karl Hungus

Numina wrote:

Finally picked up "Words That Go Unspoken..." and I must say, even though I'm not too partial to other metal bands in the league of Akercocke (even though they are pretty much in a league of their own), this album is insane, ESPECIALLY Shelter From The Sand, the serene-type interlude, and then this crazy electronic synth, and then back to the metal. Genius!

I know, they've quite amazing. I've still been listening to Words a hell of a lot since I got it. It's just an incredible album.