Whats my next move here???

DocO

Its down to the final five of a tournament. there is one massive chip leader of close to 200k, one short stack of 7k, ive got 55k and am even with the other two players.

next position pays out 150 and 4th is 250, 3rd 375 , 2nd 500 and first 1k.

chip leader is on the big blind, utg shortstack goes all in, utg+1 passes, on to me.
Now i am aware of correct tournament play and how important it is to get a player knocked out to ensure a betr pay out, but i also have ambitions to get in the decent money -

I look down to AA


What is my move now, and why?

Edit " BB is 4k"

Ste05

Push or limp depending on which is most likely to induce the CL to get his chips in against you.
i.e. Limp if you think CL will try and push you off the hand Pre-Flop, if you don't think he'll do this then just push, a push looks weaker than any other type of raise.

Basically at this stage, trying to knock out the Shorty and move up the pay ladder is irrelevant, the only thing of concern to you is how you get all your chips in the middle against the CL, Pre-Flop. (or at least what action is most likely to achieve this)

BTW, My default decision here would be to push.

Bandana boy

i would raise to 14K here it might look like your isolating and if BB has a hand he pushs

ianmc38

I like limping here. We dont want it hu wih shorty. We want others to call. If i dont limp then i push hoping that it looks like a move to isolate.

RoundTower

Obviously this depends on what you think of the chip leader. I don't think you can afford to call if you think the CL will just call and won't try to make a move at it, the blinds are getting too good a price.

With no read I would probably make it 16k here, one of the players might decide to see a flop or think they can get you off it preflop.

Goodluck2me

i raise and try to so whatever you can to look weak... a reraise is likely enough if he is anyway aggresssive and wants to ask you a question for all of your chips...

willis

Raise allin.By calling your giving the bb a free flop and if you call planning to check it down you give him 5cards to hit.Checking it down is horrible,however if you call planning to bet the flop then its ok. The reason i raise allin is because if you were to make it 16k-20k then you are basically saying to the rest of the table "I have a Monster". The reraise allin looks like an isolation play imo and isnt as suspicious as a small reraise

padraig_f

I think just calling is pretty bad here. No-one expects you to bluff the flop with a guy all-in so you're not gonna get any action post-flop unless the big-blind hits top pair or better. I like making it about $20k. I've seen people make this kind of raise with a hand like KQ or 88 when they figure to be ahead of the short-stack. So you've a decent chance of getting action. Then push the flop whatever comes. Now you really could be bluffing on the flop because there's a side pot up for grabs.

I'm not keen on raising all-in either. You get action far less often with that bet.

DocO

The chip leader is Victor, who if any of yee know him he is normally very loose, but he has tightened up emensely on final table as everyone was joking that he'd blow his lead.
As i pondered over my decision he was enraged as to why i was not immediately flat calling (saying he better know what to do, etc "
this led me to believe i would get no bluffing out of him on the flop. i also aggree that the knockin a player out is irrelevant because of all the chips on offer.

i dont think anyone would have flat called and then tried to "steal" on the flop, so a raise preflop was def neccessary.

As it turned out, i raised to 20k total, got no callers, and took down the shortstacks J7o.

Chip leader later apoligized to me, saying he didnt realise how strong i was.