Did college really get involved in that Bebo thing?

Stargal

What's the deal with all the people apologising for comments they made in the Forum section of Trinity's page on Bebo? There's been inferences that 'college' (Emma Stokes?) got in touch with them to make them apologise for comments they made about the people involved in the coffee pouring thing in the Hamilton a few weeks ago. Is this true?

Crash

I get the feeling that there was JD'ing involved. comments by one of the guys:

potkettleblack etc. IMO.

Bebo wrote:

I must apologise for a topic which I posted up on this page last month. My actions were unreasonable, inconsiderate and were never thought through fully. I realise that I have no right to cause any form of harassment against any fellow students of our college. It is with this in mind that I wish to apologise to all who were affected by my actions and implore others not to use this page for any form of harassment but to take appropriate action through correct institutions as illustrated in college guidelines.

the last line implies the above to me alright.

Makes you wonder who reads the TCD forum on boards.ie.

Hi Emma!

ApeXaviour

What are they apologising for? I had a quick scan back and couldn't find anything too offensive.

Crash

a lot of it was deleted. personally i'd say our thread on it was just as bad, though i think they were named in the other one. Though tbh if the JD wants she can call me up and i can defend the thread - nothing defamatory is said, i dont think.

Boston

Yet more evidence that the JD only cares about litigation. The strong arm of censorship reaches out again.

Black_Couch

I know of students expelled from schools because of what they did on bebo

Boston

You see it should be pointed out to every first year, that trinity only cares about it's reputation and how it looks. You can get into fist fights, piss in the front arch, disrupt classes, skip an entire years worth of lectures, but say something or do something that reflects bad on trinity, and bang, your fuked.

Crash

my issue isnt what happened, its that it was actually reported. pot kettle black etc.

bullying is all to easy on that sort of thing and should be stamped down on to an extent like.

ApeXaviour

&#231 wrote: »

my issue isnt what happened

Ok crash, but do you or anyone actually know what happened? I'm interested to know.

Punishment without context makes it rather hard to form an opinion.

Crash

do you mean in relation to the hamilton or the bebo issue?

ApeXaviour

&#231 wrote: »

do you mean in relation to the hamilton or the bebo issue?

bebo

Crash

No, i dont know exactly what happened. also just read my last post and it was slightly more "exact" than the first one - my mistake. it should say "my issue, if this is what happened," etc.

At the moment i'm pretty much going on an educated guess on a few issues really.

cuckoo

But, how does the JD's realm of power extend to Bebo?

Unless ppl were using college computers to access the bebo page and post Bad Things, then i don't understand why she got involved, or what penalties she could threaten people with.

I know there's probably some sort of a catch all clause somewhere in the statutes that would allow her to do a Minority Report and expel us for potential crimes if she so pleased, or, for thinking bad thoughts about the campanile and the Provost's cat, but seriously, is there so little else for her to be doing that she's chasing ppl for bebo crap?

Crash

bullying of a student by other students would technically fall under the JD's remit, i would think?

&#231

&#231 wrote: »

bullying of a student by other students would technically fall under the JD's remit, i would think?

http://www.tcd.ie/assets/documents/calendar/part1_general_regulations_and_information.pdf

College Calendar, H15-16 wrote:

5. Without prejudice to the general power of the Junior Dean to decide whether an alleged offence is major or minor, the following examples would normally be regarded as major offences:

...

(k) All forms of bullying and harassment, including sexual and racial harassment, in all College locations and situations where students are participating in formal College activities or are representing the College or are present at events, social or otherwise, organized in association with the College.

Boston

I disagree with that niell. being bullied while in the pursuit of an education, or while taking part in some college actively, would absolutely fall under the JD remit. However if I'm sitting in some pub, I've every right to say, "that blokes an arsewhole" and tell him to get away from me. Bebo hasn't got anything to do with the college, other then the fact that allot of students use it. If the JD tried to pull that same stunt here, it wouldn't be very long before a solicitors letter from boards.ie management arrived at her office.

Crash

well i'm not saying its right or wrong, its just my theory of what happened.

Boston

&#231 wrote: »

well i'm not saying its right or wrong, its just my theory of what happened.

I agree, just saying I'd have told her where to go.

Edwardius

damn hot collared bint.

Crash

LiouVille wrote:

I agree, just saying I'd have told her where to go.

As would i most likely, however most students when called up, they would just go "yup, whatever you say".

Boston

Personally i'd call her a Homophobic, Sexist, Bullying, Repressed, man hating hating, catholic hating, xenophobe, and storm out, OR a bint as dead ed put it.

Pet

On what grounds?

Boston

I saw her... that one time I was within 30 meters of her, un-dressing me with her eyes, picturing me all nakid and covered in chocolate, spanking me, yielling "bad boy", "Bad boy". Oh yes, I saw her...


On a serious note, she's probably none of the above, but she is incompetent. All of us have stories or have heard stories of people who are truely asswholes, who distrupt college life, and who have been brought to her attention, only to get a slap on the wrist. Ultimate result, some students get coffee thrown on them, or some bar man gets assaulted.

europerson

The JD did send out the "Summer Evenings @ the Pav" e-mail, with a subject line that could only be construed as some half-hearted attempt to be cool.

Crash

that email made me want to cry. for someone. anyone. but it definitely brought "i'm hip!" tears of "no you're not" to my eyes.


...that made no sense at all

Comhra....

well I've been living on campus for the last eight months and I haven't had any problems with her. But I don't like the way all of her e-mails to residents have everyones e-mail addresses at the top she doesn't BCC or CC so anyone could easily hit reply all. Hmmm...I wonder if that goes against the data protection act.

Thirdfox

what's a "bint"?

flashback to when I asked my religion teacher... "What's a comdom?" - reply "go ask your parents!" amidst much giggles from fellow classmates.

Crash

go ask your parents!


*plans to get the law class to giggle at you next time they see you*

Thirdfox

The online Oxford English dictionary won't laugh at me!:

" A girl or woman (usu. derog.); girl-friend.
The term was in common use by British servicemen in Egypt and neighbouring countries in the wars of 1914-18 and 1939-45.
1855 R. F. BURTON Pers. Narr. Pilgrimage to Meccah I. v. 121 ‘Allah! upon Allah! O daughter!’ cry the by-standers, when the obstinate ‘bint’ of sixty years seizes their hands. 1888 C. M. DOUGHTY Trav. Arabia Deserta I. viii. 231 Hirfa sighed for motherhood: she had been these two years with an husband and was yet bint, as the nomads say, ‘in her girlhood’. Ibid. xiii. 374 The homesick Beduin bint. 1919 Athenæum 25 July 664/2 Bint, girl. 1930 E. RAYMOND Jesting Army I. ii. 24 Damned jolly little bint, that one, too! 1938 ‘R. HYDE’ Godwits Fly xi. 169 Fancy turning in a smoke for a bint. 1941 New Statesman 30 Aug. (list of war slang) Bint{em}Girl friend. 1942 N. STREATFEILD Table for Six 151 I'd like her to grow up a lush bint. 1946 Penguin New Writing XXVIII. 175 What are the bints like round here, Tom? 1958 K. AMIS I like it Here xiii. 162 As the R.A.F. friend would have put it, you could never tell with these foreign bints."


So you're (not you specifically) saying she is a loose Egyptian girl?

Edwardius

It's a wonderful word. Almost as good as cunt. Short, sweet, makes a point, stops abruptly and sounds wonderful when screamed at the object of your objections.

Agent Smith

message to Junior Dean:


censor this.


That is all

Hitchhiker's Guide to...

wow! calm down. she is only doing her job. and from my experience of seeing her on committees, she was always very fair and very pro-student.

also, there is no need to call anyone some of the things that she has been called on this thread

Pet

I can see why she'd want to uphold a good image of Trinity, but ffs, those guys obviously deserve the bad press they got. Why hasn't she dealt with them?