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Fadas in newspapers

  • 10-05-2006 9:07am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭


    Should newspapers in English use fadas in Irish words?

    Fadas or no fadas? 26 votes

    Fadas
    0% 0 votes
    No fadas
    100% 26 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Keedowah


    do they use acdents on German and French words?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    Seems to depend on the newspaper.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    Why wouldn't they? If it's part of the word then they're not spelling it correctly without fada's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    As flogen said, if there's meant to be a fada in the word, then they should put it there, or it's spelt incorrectly, and can mean something totally different.

    Point in hand: 'Seán' means 'John', 'Sean' means 'Old'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭snickerpuss


    Since they use them in French etc words then i would say yes since thats how its spelt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    Yes.

    It's not hard to do.
    Not using the fada is incorrect and possibly confusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,400 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Yes, not just because they do it for other languages but because if a fada is not there then the word is just wrong!

    Years ago we used to have two dots (like an umlaut) called a seimhú [softening](sp?) over certain letters but this has since been replaced with the letter 'h'. Leaving the 'h' out would be wrong so therefore leaving the fada out is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭Anto McC


    Yes,its not too much effort and everyone will still be able to read the word but it also sets a good precedent to non irish speakers who read the papers!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,136 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Of course. Asking the question is like asking "should newspapers use text speak as it's easier?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Ohyeah


    As would be expected Daily Ireland www.dailyireland.com uses them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Dublin's Finest


    Papers should get rid of the letter z. I mean it's only used in the odd word.

    "LION ESCAPES FROM DUBLIN OO"

    Sounds good to me.

    Seriously, have to use fadas...they are a letter after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭Andrew 83


    Agree with the concensus that they should be used.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭fuzzywiggle


    Yes they should be used


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Of course they should be used - without them the word is mis-spelt.

    Example : Sean = old ; Seán = John/Jack. I hate it when people spell my name wrong. But I've kinda gotten used to it............

    Seán.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭SF1


    crosstownk wrote:
    Of course they should be used - without them the word is mis-spelt.
    You are right
    they never spell Sinn Féin Right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,333 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    r3nu4l wrote:
    Years ago we used to have two dots (like an umlaut) called a seimhú

    It was one dot. You can even still see it on some old street signs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Should news papers in engish use words in other languages and not use Accents and other letters that don't appear in the English alphabeth?
    Years ago we used to have two dots (like an umlaut) called a seimhú [softening](sp?) over certain letters but this has since been replaced with the letter 'h'. Leaving the 'h' out would be wrong so therefore leaving the fada out is wrong.

    One dot and it can be seen on many sign posts and pubs across the country.

    Also perhaps Fine Geal will start to spell their name correctly Fianna Gaedhael.

    By press Alt Gr button and the vowel you wish to put a fada on gets you the fada áéíóú. And you can get caps on some keyboards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,400 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Elmo wrote:
    One dot and it can be seen on many sign posts and pubs across the country

    Yes of course one dot, I guess I got confused talking about umlauts :) but it is only seen in old Irish script, not in modern script. It's a shame we stopped using it, I don't think the language benefitted in any special way from its' demise (but that's for another day!)

    Yes of course english language newspapers should use accents when writing text from another language otherwise the use of the word would be incorrect as with fadas!


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