Fadas in newspapers

luckat

Should newspapers in English use fadas in Irish words?

Keedowah

do they use acdents on German and French words?

luckat

Seems to depend on the newspaper.

flogen

Why wouldn't they? If it's part of the word then they're not spelling it correctly without fada's

Dave!

As flogen said, if there's meant to be a fada in the word, then they should put it there, or it's spelt incorrectly, and can mean something totally different.

Point in hand: 'Seán' means 'John', 'Sean' means 'Old'.

snickerpuss

Since they use them in French etc words then i would say yes since thats how its spelt.

simu

Yes.

It's not hard to do.
Not using the fada is incorrect and possibly confusing.

r3nu4l

Yes, not just because they do it for other languages but because if a fada is not there then the word is just wrong!

Years ago we used to have two dots (like an umlaut) called a seimhú [softening](sp?) over certain letters but this has since been replaced with the letter 'h'. Leaving the 'h' out would be wrong so therefore leaving the fada out is wrong.

Anto McC

Yes,its not too much effort and everyone will still be able to read the word but it also sets a good precedent to non irish speakers who read the papers!!

Stark

Of course. Asking the question is like asking "should newspapers use text speak as it's easier?"

Ohyeah

As would be expected Daily Ireland www.dailyireland.com uses them.

Dublin's Finest

Papers should get rid of the letter z. I mean it's only used in the odd word.

"LION ESCAPES FROM DUBLIN OO"

Sounds good to me.

Seriously, have to use fadas...they are a letter after all.

Andrew 83

Agree with the concensus that they should be used.

fuzzywiggle

Yes they should be used

crosstownk

Of course they should be used - without them the word is mis-spelt.

Example : Sean = old ; Seán = John/Jack. I hate it when people spell my name wrong. But I've kinda gotten used to it............

Seán.

SF1

crosstownk wrote:

Of course they should be used - without them the word is mis-spelt.

You are right
they never spell Sinn Féin Right.

Cake Fiend

r3nu4l wrote:

Years ago we used to have two dots (like an umlaut) called a seimhú

It was one dot. You can even still see it on some old street signs.

Elmo

Should news papers in engish use words in other languages and not use Accents and other letters that don't appear in the English alphabeth?

Years ago we used to have two dots (like an umlaut) called a seimhú [softening](sp?) over certain letters but this has since been replaced with the letter 'h'. Leaving the 'h' out would be wrong so therefore leaving the fada out is wrong.

One dot and it can be seen on many sign posts and pubs across the country.

Also perhaps Fine Geal will start to spell their name correctly Fianna Gaedhael.

By press Alt Gr button and the vowel you wish to put a fada on gets you the fada áéíóú. And you can get caps on some keyboards.

r3nu4l

Elmo wrote:

One dot and it can be seen on many sign posts and pubs across the country

Yes of course one dot, I guess I got confused talking about umlauts but it is only seen in old Irish script, not in modern script. It's a shame we stopped using it, I don't think the language benefitted in any special way from its' demise (but that's for another day!)

Yes of course english language newspapers should use accents when writing text from another language otherwise the use of the word would be incorrect as with fadas!