Needed Challenging Metal Songs

Patricide

Ok i was gonna post this in techniques theory but i dunno if many people would see it there and have input.Anyway im in a band called chaos theory and im wondering if anyone can recoment a technily hard metal song to play on every instument(guitar, bass, drums, vocals) that people will also be able to recognise easily, that is that a lot of people will know the song.

Was thinking opeth maself but not a lot of the people in the ****hole of tralee know em.

MagnumForce

Hows about a Dragonforce song?

OLP

Reign In Blood? Isn't impossible, but I suppose it's hard enough, and I'd guess alot of people know it.

feylya

Moved to the right forum.

And if you want technically difficult songs that impress people, write your own.

Or play some Nevermore.

Patricide

Reign in blood's too easy, and its been done to death by cover bands down here.Dragon force is a bit light.Nevermore is a grand idea though a good few people know em.

Doctor J

In general, most people won't know technically intricate songs, most folks just like a good beat and something they can sing along to

So with that in mind, you can either bow to their ignorance or pehaps enlighten them and introduce them to something with a bit of pep, so here are some songs that would actually be a challenge

Megadeth - Holy Wars
Cynic - Uroboric Forms (RR demo version)
Atheist - And The Psychic Saw
Death - Flattening Of Emotions
Coroner - Masked Jackal

That should keep ye occupied for quite a while

It wasn't me!

Opeth aren't difficult really, but complex enough arrangement-wise.

Patricide

Nah its not just me being an arrogent bastard i just really wanna do somthing that will be a real challenge, i mean were doing plenty of crowd pleasing songs(slipknot slayer and that malarky) but there all so simple and basic if ya get me and i just want somthing a bit more.Megadeth holy wars was my first choice but our lead guitarist isnt a fan(well he hates them really).

dimerocks

RacerX - Scarified. I'll buy you a pint if you can play that note perfect.

18AD

Not sure how 'technical' you want, but...
Something by Testament, mayhaps?
Into the Pit is a good one or Practice What You Preach.

Pantera - Walk *
Atheist, Death or Megadeth as mentioned.
Symphony X - Wicked
Something by Soilwork. Don't know much to be honest.
Exodus - Toxic Waltz...for the laugh.
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Necrophagist - Seven
In Flames - Lord Hypnos. Only one example, tons more good songs.

*Joke

MagnumForce

18AD wrote:

Judas Priest - Painkiller

Actually, yeah, if you vocalist is up to it, blow them away with Painkiller!!

It wasn't me!

Pantera-Mouth for War. A crowd-pleaser, and a difficult song.

Giblet

dimerocks wrote:

RacerX - Scarified. I'll buy you a pint if you can play that note perfect.

Working on that at the moment, only heard it yesterday though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPGA3vjMLgE&search=paul%20gilbert%20space

lee_baby_simms

Doctor J wrote:

Death - Flattening Of Emotions

Amazing song.

Staying with Death, Without Judgement off the Symbolic album is very satisfying to play.

The first tune off Dimension Hatred by Voivod is also a great guitar tune. I forget the name of it now.

Karl Hungus

Ever tried to play any Steve Vai?

lee_baby_simms

Anyone going to this Zappa plays Zappa gig next month?

Patricide

O man this song is class, just heard it there.might take me a while(a long while) to get all those fills note perfect on bass but its gonna be my personal misson for the next while.That song is unreal

Doctor J

Which song?

Karl Hungus

lee_baby_simms wrote:

Anyone going to this Zappa plays Zappa gig next month?

No, I'm afraid not. Tickets are pretty pricey too.

lee_baby_simms

Karl Hungus wrote:

No, I'm afraid not. Tickets are pretty pricey too.

Yeah i got two in Sound Cellar at lunch today. €61 each. I eased the pain with a sub of the day next door.

Still, the sights and sounds of Bozzio and Vai on stage together is not to be sniffed at.

Patricide

scarrified, racer X jesus h christ on a pike. The only thing id heard of racer x before was a bit of street letal on a guitar world cd now i must go get an album that **** is unreal.

lee_baby_simms

Patricide wrote:

scarrified, racer X jesus h christ on a pike. The only thing id heard of racer x before was a bit of street letal on a guitar world cd now i must go get an album that **** is unreal.

I think theres a MrBig connection with that band. Its kinda pop speed metal to my ears.

Giblet

Paul Gilbert was in Mr Big

Kenny_D

Arch Enemy? Ravenous perhaps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEB985nS_uc

dimerocks

Giblet wrote:

Working on that at the moment, only heard it yesterday though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPGA3vjMLgE&search=paul%20gilbert%20space

The main riff is grand. Not problems with that. I'm having major trouble with the solo. Sweep picking is not my strong point so I must wokr on that.

dimerocks

I've decided the best place to attemot starting Gilbert is with Heavy Disco Trip. Damn Les Pauls weren' made for12-19 fret stretches!

conzy

dimerocks wrote:

RacerX - Scarified. I'll buy you a pint if you can play that note perfect.

Go Paul:o

What an amazing song

Oh and what could be more technical than technical difficulties

It wasn't me!

dimerocks wrote:

I've decided the best place to attemot starting Gilbert is with Heavy Disco Trip. Damn Les Pauls weren' made for12-19 fret stretches!

Cowboys From Hell involves 12-20, you get pretty used to it.

dimerocks

i can play cowboys but i find this much harder. Its the sweep picking bit after the 12-19 stretch too.....followed by the string skiping!!!nah its just hard. Must practice very slowly.
In other Gilbert related things he is also quite hilarious. http://www.paulgilbert.com/Vicente.html
his website is unbelievable!

It wasn't me!

What you could do is metal up Flight of the Bumblebee.

conzy

dimerocks wrote:

i can play cowboys but i find this much harder. Its the sweep picking bit after the 12-19 stretch too.....followed by the string skiping!!!nah its just hard. Must practice very slowly.
In other Gilbert related things he is also quite hilarious. http://www.paulgilbert.com/Vicente.html
his website is unbelievable!

LOL, his website is so bad its funny:D

Patricide

Ive thought of that already after hearing the guy from manowar can do it, i looked at the tab and said hmmmmm mabey next year.

dimerocks

conzymaher wrote:

LOL, his website is so bad its funny:D

I know, he does it all himself though so fair play to him. It is hilarious i think. The bit about his suits is great.

conzy

dimerocks wrote:

I know, he does it all himself though so fair play to him. It is hilarious i think. The bit about his suits is great.

I know i spent hours looking at it, Its funny because he knows its bad:D

Look

DO NOT CLICK HERE!!!

irishslipknot

if you want metal try out some bleeding through(there not so much metal)...
even some mudvayne like "dig" or "happy"..there well known

It wasn't me!

They're looking for complex stuff though, that's not too tricky.

gizmo

Oh the off chance you're still looking for ideas, heres a couple I'd love to be able to tackle.

Lamb Of God - Laid To Rest (probably their best known song) but outside that 11th Hour, As The Palaces Burn or Ashes Of The Wake.
Children Of Bodom...most of their stuff
Nevermore - Final Product
Shadows Fall - Destroyer Of Senses or What Drives The Weak
Unearth - Endless
Arch Enemy - Nemesis
Roadrunner United - The Dagger (Have you seen Jeff Waters play that solo on the DVD?)

dimerocks

the only thing hard about mudvayne is the bass lines. Good bassist....bad band.

Quatre Mains

well as regards drums I wouldn't really know, but as per previous posters I would have to go along with Megadeth - Good Mourning/Black Friday has some really nice changes. On a related note, I always found Saturation Point by Marty Friedman to be an extremely technical piece. Also, from a guitarists point of view, Cacophony(Marty Friedman(again!)+Jason Becker) were pretty savage. Both those guys were on Shrapnel Records(as were Racer X) owned I think by Mike Varney, who specialised in signing shredder guitarists during the 80's, so if you're into researching that do a search for him.
Away from the heavy stuff, Malmsteen has some very technical music as well. He plays a lot of the bass on his albums so it can be superfast, lot of unison lines with the guitar: a good starting point would be the instrumental 'Leviathan' from Fire and Ice, definitely no picnic. Also, Deja Vu from Odyssey has a great solo and main riff. I guess thats not up your alley so I wont bore you any further, I was way more into hard rock than thrash metal, sorry!

BossArky

Maybe this is too mainstream metal for you but how about

Metallica - Master of Puppets.
Megadeth - Wake up Dead.

It wasn't me!

Not really challenging enough I would think.

Pyr0

May not be heavy but you could try Cliffs on Dover by Eric Johnson ?

Or if you want something hard and heavy Necrophagist Fermented Offal Discharge (man what a name). Actually any of their stuff really

OctavarIan

Dream Theater - The Glass Prision

Riffage and bloody arpeggios